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| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5663 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 25 of 30 16 October 2013 at 5:48am | IP Logged | |||||
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I realize that those words have different shades of meaning, it was just an example. It's hard to use the L1->L2 method for synonyms. Another example might be alzar/levantar: Me levantó/alzó en sus hombros, no me levantes/alces la voz, etc. No me molestes/jorobes/fastidies. Lo hizo otra vez/de nuevo. Estamos de vuelta/de regreso. Or worse yet, slang/insults/body parts: "Ese tonto/imbécil/gili(pollas)/subnormal/retrasado/majadero/bob o/lerdo/estúpido/etc. no sabe lo que dice." An English translation just doesn't always make clear which word you're asking for.
I try to give context for words, too, but i'm also not afraid of finding that context later through extensive reading. But i'd like to use flashcards as a way to activate vocabulary, i've just always stumbled across these things and not knowing which word exactly i'm looking for (and things like "not tonto, bobo, estúpido or lerdo" getting to be too much), i generally just go L2->L1 and look for other ways to activate the words. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Avid Learner Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4460 days ago 100 posts - 156 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: German | Message 26 of 30 16 October 2013 at 6:54am | IP Logged | |||||
In such a case, I would put the word that fits the context I've just encountered on the first line and then add the other meanings on the next line(s). When I review the cards, I ask myself to recall only the first line, but upon seeing the answer, I read all the words. It's surprising how many of them you end up memorising without trying. I found out by accident that it also solved the problem of cards that would otherwise be too similar, because, for example, they would happened to be used in a similar context in L1. It also sometimes gives me an indication of what the context is when a word in L1 can be used in several contexts. I don't think there is a perfect solution, but it's the "less bad" one I found.
BTW, in case you didn't know it yet, you can generate both directions automatically with Anki. Personally, I do them in both directions from the start. I find each side reinforces the other side. If I tell Anki that I want to learn 20 cards, Anki is intelligent enough to present me with both sides of the same 10 cards. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5663 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 27 of 30 16 October 2013 at 3:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
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That sounds better, but i feel like it still isn't that great when you're adding new words later. You've got to update all the other cards, etc. But i think i'm going to carry this topic over in Ari's thread.
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| languagenerd09 Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom youtube.com/user/Lan Joined 4898 days ago 174 posts - 267 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai | Message 28 of 30 16 October 2013 at 9:10pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I sometimes go vice versa when using English.
Then if I really want to challenge myself, I use the target language with Spanish or Portuguese. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Avid Learner Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4460 days ago 100 posts - 156 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: German | Message 29 of 30 17 October 2013 at 3:46am | IP Logged | |||||
I don't understand what you mean by updating all the other cards. I'm not updating anything. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4242 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French | Message 30 of 30 21 October 2013 at 3:22am | IP Logged | |||||
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Flash cards you can go both directions. I also find it useful learning a language from videos can go the reverse
direction as well. Suppose I am learning Mandarin as an English speaker, instead of finding only videos in English that teach me how to speak Chinese, I would find videos online for the Chinese to learn English and pick up Chinese vocabulary that way. Going 1 way you expect the teacher to be doing more than half of the video lesson in English with Chinese phrases in between. Going the other way, the teacher would be using more Chinese with English phrases to fill up the video. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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