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jeff_lindqvist
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 Message 17 of 58
09 May 2007 at 4:52pm | IP Logged 
Session 20:
Chapter 12 of SkdE. New grammar, and a story about a Swedish tourist in Estonia who wants to see the town (Tallinn), chats with the officer at the Esperanta Turista Komisiono, buys a map et.c.

The stories are a bit more difficult to follow now (because I've read them very fast, and not "learned" everything properly), and I can't do the translation exercises without a lot of mistakes. Perhaps I should go back and do some sort of "second wave" now.
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 Message 18 of 58
15 May 2007 at 3:12am | IP Logged 
I hope your Esperanto studies are going well. Thanks a lot for all the links you posted!
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 Message 19 of 58
15 May 2007 at 4:40am | IP Logged 
So-so, I've been busy with things recently and haven't been able to catch up missed study time.

Session 21:
Review of some of the SkdE chapters, I read #11 several times and went through #1-3 the other way around, to activate my Esperanto. Sort of a second wave.
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 Message 20 of 58
15 May 2007 at 1:44pm | IP Logged 
Session 22:
I was thinking of going back to the Lernu site today when I found a new course (as announced on their main page), La puzlo Esperanto. The course has of 45 short lessons, each showing a couple of grammar rules, and after a demonstration there are exercises. I did 1-7, and will probably go back to this Esperanto "puzzle" once in a while.

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 Message 21 of 58
16 May 2007 at 3:45am | IP Logged 
Session 23:
I returned to Ana Pana and did #7 (except the correspondence exercise).

Session 24:
Time for Gerda Malaperis! again. I listened to #6, #7 and #8 for about 10 minutes each, including answering the questions at the end of each chapter.

Difficulties:
Ĉu mi sekvu lin al la urbo?
Ĉu mi sekvu lin en la urbon?
Ĉu mi sekvu lin en la urbo?
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 Message 22 of 58
16 May 2007 at 6:13pm | IP Logged 
Session 25:
I did the correspondence exercise for Ana Pana #7 by answering some questions and writing a short story about one of my favourite trips.

I like the multi-track approach of using several sources, jumping back and forth between them, doing several at the same time, and will stick to this "chaotic" method for the rest of the study period.
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 Message 23 of 58
16 May 2007 at 9:43pm | IP Logged 

jeff_lindqvist wrote:
Session 23:
Difficulties:
Ĉu mi sekvu lin al la urbo?
Ĉu mi sekvu lin en la urbon?
Ĉu mi sekvu lin en la urbo?


The -u ending indicates the imperative mood. It's used for commands in
the 2nd person.

(Vi) Iru al la domo! = (You) Go to the house!   (a command)

As in english, the subject (Vi/You) can be understood and is usually
dropped. Otherwise, It is used to show a will or desire for something to
be.

Ni iru al la domo = We should go to the house (often this is also
translated as "Let us go to the house).

Mi iru al la domo = I should go to the house.   And so forth.

When used with the question particle ĉu, it is a request for a directive.
Thus

Ĉu ni iru al la domo = Should we go to the house?

---------------

The other thing in your post is the use of the accusative -n ending after a
preposition. This generally indicates motion towards. Consider the
sentences

La kato saltas sur la lito   = the cat is jumping on the bed.   Without the -
n ending, this indicates that there is no motion towards the bed. So
literally, you would think of this as, the cat is on the bed, and while
there jumping.

With the -n ending after the preposition, this indicates motion toward.
Therefore

La kato saltas sur la liton   = The cat is jumping onto the bed. The cat
wasnt on the bed but jumped to a position on the bed (the -n shows
motion towards.

But, This -n ending shouldn't be used with the prepositions al or ĝis,
because they already show motion towards. (Thus it's redundant to use
the n with them). So

Ĉu mi sekvu lin al la urbo?   =   Should I follow him to the town?
Ĉu mi sekvu lin en la urbon? = Should I follow him into the town?
(from a position outside the town to a position inside the town)
Ĉu mi sekvu lin en la urbo? = Should I follow him inside the town
(we're both going to be in the town, should I follow him around while we
are there?)
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Hope that's clear :)


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 Message 24 of 58
17 May 2007 at 4:02am | IP Logged 
Thanks a lot! I somehow got it when I read the text, but it's always nice to get an explanation. My main focus at this stage is comprehension so I don't always check things up.


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