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| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5171 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes  Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish | Message 49 of 53 24 December 2014 at 11:25pm | IP Logged | ||
As someone who isn't Irish I don't really have a horse in the race but I thought it could work out if he learned Irish to the point of being conversational to demonstrate that it can be done. I had mentioned that Des Bishop/Benny-style big goals and projects can really put the pressure on adult learners to make a lot of progress and I think this is that same sort of idea on steroids. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6689 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 50 of 53 25 December 2014 at 1:45am | IP Logged | ||
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I remember many positive things from the week. Some of those include enthusiastic learners who worked hard to stay in the same group they had chosen at the beginning of the week, who "levelled up" by speaking Irish to each other despite grammar mistakes and lack of vocabulary - in class, during coffee breaks, in the street, and in the pub.
I forgot to mention a nice chat with a man the last evening. It turned out that he learned Irish as a child but hadn't used it until he (recently?) moved back to the Glencolmcille area. He also spoke Irish to my friend (who was in level 1), and adapted his level so she would understand him. More on the Gaeltacht topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xALlNgbBdoo (just for reference - we don't want this to be a political discussion) By the way, I bought two books in the shop: Cú na mBaskerville (Hound of Baskerville) and Lastall den Scáthán agus a bhFuair Eilís Ann Roimpi (Through the looking-glass and what Alice found there), and at this point I've nearly finished the Baskerville through my bilingual "reading aloud" method, one sentence in English, one in Irish, next sentence... I'll post a detailed summary before the end of this year. Next book I'll read will be Eachtraí Eilíse i dTír na nIontas (Alice's adventures in Wonderland) - I just have to get that one first. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| agantik Triglot Senior Member France Joined 4415 days ago 217 posts - 335 votes Speaks: French*, English, Italian Studies: German, Norwegian | Message 51 of 53 02 January 2015 at 4:55pm | IP Logged | ||
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Godt nytt år, fellow member of the Scandinavian team ! Happy to read your log this year.
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| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6689 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 52 of 53 04 January 2015 at 1:57am | IP Logged | ||
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What happened after I returned from Ireland?
Well, not much! The autumn started with my deciding not to do any unversity studies (I had applied to four mini courses, among them Modern Irish Reading and Old Irish Reading). In late September I tried out Duolingo for some 30-40 days without interruption (same for German and Spanish). I also watched four episodes of Canúintí Ceoil (~28 minutes) which is about regional styles in Irish music. I was very happy to recognize faces in the Donegal episode (as well as hear their accent) and in the Clare episode there was a lot of footage from Miltown Malbay where I went every summer around the turn of the century. I even saw people I played music with back then (one guy who will always be my number one proof that Irish is a living language). Finally, I started my bilingual reading aloud method with The Hound of the Baskervilles/Cú na mBaskerville - something I finished the day before New Year's Eve. In the last third of the book, I read up to one paragraph in English before reading the same text in Irish. My feelings are the same as after reading An Hobad (see previous page). Spreadsheet stats: Scriptorium 14 hours Listening 15.5 hours Reading 15.25 hours Analysis (grammar exercises, conversation practice etc.) 90.25 hours Shadowing 6.25 hours Total 141.25 hours Average 27 min/day (The Old Irish stats: 44 hours of analysis) Entries in Anki: 3024 (words and phrases, L2->L1). I don't study flashcards on a daily (or even weekly) basis anymore, especially since I've been unable to synchronize the deck with my AnkiWeb account since mid-October. My goals from 2014 was:
Current level Still limited active skills in a limited range of topics - but I'm getting better! My vocabulary is still to weak to understand say, random newscasts, while videos on specialized topics can be surprisingly "easy" to understand. My reading skills are improving day by day. Goals for 2015: As stated two posts above, I'll read the two books by Lewis Carroll, and after that I'm going to try an original book in Maybe finish the second volume of Gaeilge gan Stró. Probably a trip to Ireland in July. Other than that - read articles on Wikipedia, write, maybe some self-talk, maybe book lessons with a tutor. Edited by jeff_lindqvist on 04 January 2015 at 2:01am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5336 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona | Message 53 of 53 04 January 2015 at 8:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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A really impressive past year, Jeff, in which your Irish seems to have gone from strength to strength! I particularly enjoyed your accounts of learning Irish in the Gaeltacht, and would love to go sometime myself (although I'm a bit far away right now). I look forward to us comparing notes on Team Celts again this year, and although I haven't started using my recently arrived copies of Gaeilge gan Stró just yet, it looks very promising after flicking through the pages and reading the intro. Incidentally, my local native Hawaiian bookstore also has Hawaiian editions of "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland " and "Through the Looking Glass", although they're way beyond my level right now.
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