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TreoPaul
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01 August 2007 at 7:12am | IP Logged 
I am familiar with the A1-C2 scale, and the formal definitions. But I was wondering if these short-and-simple statements were a good approximation:

A1 * I know a few words of <language>
A2 * I know a little <language>
B1 * I speak <language> but not well
B2 * I speak <language>
C1 * I speak <language> well
C2 * I am considered fluent in <language>

To further simplify my question, at what point can I say "I speak German"

thanks.. Paul



Edited by TreoPaul on 01 August 2007 at 7:13am

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Zhuangzi
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01 August 2007 at 10:02am | IP Logged 
Here are the levels we use in The Linguist. The first is of course before you start, and the last is native like fluency. In between you have 6 levels. In my view you can say you speak German at level 2 as long as you qualify it and keep studying.The numbers refer to the rough TOEIC equivalent.

     You have no knowledge of English      

            
     You can say and understand some words and phrases                    
      You can travel and shop, and talk about familiar subjects      450               
     You can function at a basic level at work and in social situations      500               
     You are quite comfortable in most situations even if you lack full control      610               
     You can understand and express even complex ideas in most contexts      710               
     You can always express ideas accurately and provide subtle nuances of meaning      850
              
You are precise, cohesive, natural and persuasive in all language situations      900   ;           ; 

Edited by Zhuangzi on 01 August 2007 at 10:03am

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LilleOSC
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01 August 2007 at 5:35pm | IP Logged 
Can anyone rate themself with the CEFR (Common European Framework of Reference: Learning, Teaching, Assessment) scale or do you have to get a certificate that acknowledges your level?
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victor
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02 August 2007 at 6:46pm | IP Logged 
Anyone can of course use the scale to judge themselves. But if you want official recognition, then you should definitely consider a diploma that acknowledges your level.

For example, I wrote the DELF B2 exam and received a diploma from the French ministry of education. I am working towards a C1 level right now, and I think I can claim that I have fulfilled some of the requirements, but for official recognition so that I use it for academic or for employment purposes, I would have to write the exam to give myself more credibility.


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