TreoPaul Senior Member United States Joined 6330 days ago 121 posts - 118 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 1 of 4 01 August 2007 at 7:12am | IP Logged |
I am familiar with the A1-C2 scale, and the formal definitions. But I was wondering if these short-and-simple statements were a good approximation:
A1 * I know a few words of <language>
A2 * I know a little <language>
B1 * I speak <language> but not well
B2 * I speak <language>
C1 * I speak <language> well
C2 * I am considered fluent in <language>
To further simplify my question, at what point can I say "I speak German"
thanks.. Paul
Edited by TreoPaul on 01 August 2007 at 7:13am
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Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7028 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian
| Message 2 of 4 01 August 2007 at 10:02am | IP Logged |
Here are the levels we use in The Linguist. The first is of course before you start, and the last is native like fluency. In between you have 6 levels. In my view you can say you speak German at level 2 as long as you qualify it and keep studying.The numbers refer to the rough TOEIC equivalent.
You have no knowledge of English
You can say and understand some words and phrases
You can travel and shop, and talk about familiar subjects 450
You can function at a basic level at work and in social situations 500
You are quite comfortable in most situations even if you lack full control 610
You can understand and express even complex ideas in most contexts 710
You can always express ideas accurately and provide subtle nuances of meaning 850
You are precise, cohesive, natural and persuasive in all language situations 900   ;   ;
Edited by Zhuangzi on 01 August 2007 at 10:03am
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LilleOSC Senior Member United States lille.theoffside.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6691 days ago 545 posts - 546 votes 4 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 3 of 4 01 August 2007 at 5:35pm | IP Logged |
Can anyone rate themself with the CEFR (Common European Framework of Reference: Learning, Teaching, Assessment) scale or do you have to get a certificate that acknowledges your level?
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victor Tetraglot Moderator United States Joined 7318 days ago 1098 posts - 1056 votes 6 sounds Speaks: Cantonese*, English, FrenchC1, Mandarin Studies: Spanish Personal Language Map
| Message 4 of 4 02 August 2007 at 6:46pm | IP Logged |
Anyone can of course use the scale to judge themselves. But if you want official recognition, then you should definitely consider a diploma that acknowledges your level.
For example, I wrote the DELF B2 exam and received a diploma from the French ministry of education. I am working towards a C1 level right now, and I think I can claim that I have fulfilled some of the requirements, but for official recognition so that I use it for academic or for employment purposes, I would have to write the exam to give myself more credibility.
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