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| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5702 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 25 of 29 03 October 2008 at 3:35pm | IP Logged | ||
I'm wondering what dictionaries you used? I think I'm eventually going to have to buy an Afrikaans-English dictionary in book form and I'm hoping to find out which one would be the best to buy, as well as which ones to avoid. As for Afrikaans dictionaries online, the ones that haven't yet steered me in the wrong direction are: www.wordgumbo.com/ie/ger/afr/index.htm and http://www.rieme.co.za/woordeboek.asp. wordgumbo.com is really just a collection of word lists and rieme.co.za's dictionary only has 24,288 words, but it is much easier to use. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| FuroraCeltica Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6643 days ago 1187 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 26 of 29 16 October 2008 at 7:12am | IP Logged | ||
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Heel leuke zoveel mensen wie Nederlands leren te zien!
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| Chris Louw Triglot Newbie South Africa Joined 5658 days ago 8 posts - 8 votes Speaks: Afrikaans*, English, Dutch | Message 27 of 29 19 October 2008 at 3:43am | IP Logged | ||
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On 26 January Aksel asked the following:
I'm reading a book for children in afrikaans but i really don't understand some words (i don't find them even in a dictionary). Can someone help me?? - van 'n moewiese saal - .. en sowaar as nannies, ja, sowaar as vet, my sussie kou net daar 'n gat regdeur haar bed. (is the first part a pun? In the dictionary i found only the expression 'so waar as vet') - ..eers toe di tandarts sussie se tande kom wys (what does 'wys' mean in this sentence? Does it mean 'show'?) CORRECT ANSWER: The word "moer", derived from "moeder" (mother), is often used in a derogative sense, as in: "Jou moer!" to insult someone. "Moer" is also used to signify something huge: "'n Moerse saal" is "a hell of a big hall". In polite company "moer" has been replaced by the euphemism "moewies" (almost like the exclamation "jissie" for "Jesus") which has now become acceptable, even in children's books. So, "'n moewiese saal" simply means "a very big hall". "Sowaar as nannies"... Literally: "As true as sweeties". "Nannies" is not a recognized word, the correct word being "nammies" or "njammies", mostly used as baby language. The origin is Khoi (Bushman) and/or Nama: "To love". "Wys" is "show". 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| JW Hexaglot Senior Member United States youtube.com/user/egw Joined 5900 days ago 1802 posts - 2011 votes 22 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Ancient Greek, French, Biblical Hebrew Studies: Luxembourgish, Dutch, Greek, Italian | Message 28 of 29 19 October 2008 at 7:56pm | IP Logged | ||
Deze aanwendig van moer herinnert mij aan “Mother Lode” of “Motherboard” op het engels. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chris Louw Triglot Newbie South Africa Joined 5658 days ago 8 posts - 8 votes Speaks: Afrikaans*, English, Dutch | Message 29 of 29 20 October 2008 at 3:11am | IP Logged | ||
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Die etimologie van "moer" is heel interessant. In Afrikaans het die woord vele betekenisse, sommige direk herleibaar na die oorspronklike Nederlands. In alle gevalle is die oorspronklike bronwoord "moeder" (ma).
"Moer" is reeds in Suid-Afrika in gebruik sedert die koms van Jan van Riebeeck na die Kaap de Goede Hoop in 1652. In Van Riebeeck se dagboek is daar byvoorbeeld verwysings na "moerpaerden". Moer het ook die volgende betekenisse: 1. Moeder van jong diere, onder meer honde. 2. Baarmoeder. 3. Uitgeloopte aartappel wat geplant word (met die gedagte aan 'n moederplant waaruit ander knolle ontwikkel). 4. In die sin die die Engelse "nut", soos in "nuts and bolts": 'n plat vormpie met 'n gat in die middel waarin 'n skroefdraad gesny is en wat op 'n bout vasgedraai word. (Afgelei van "moeder:" met seksuele ondertone? -- uit Nederlands, omstreeks 1811). 5. Afsaksel van enige oplossing of vloeistof, maar veral koffie (uit Ndl, "moer", 1599). 6. Iemand baie (erg) hard slaan (uit Ndl. "moeren", 1872, algemeen in studentetaal). 7. Baie ("veel" in Ndl.) of "groot", soos in "'n Moerse klomp mense", 'n Moerse slang." Bron: Etimologiewoordeboek van Afrikaans, G.J. van Wyk et al, Buro van die Woordeboek van die Afrikaanse taal. 2003 'n Onopgetekende betekenis is "kwaad, vies": "As jy verder met my sukkel, maar jy my regtig de moer in." 1 person has voted this message useful |
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