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| olympian Newbie United States Joined 5653 days ago 1 posts - 1 votes Speaks: EnglishC2 Studies: Japanese | Message 49 of 62 03 November 2008 at 1:59am | IP Logged | ||
Thank you for the inspiring log and for sharing the resources.
I read this scary thing about Xunlei on Wikipedia: "By default it scans the user's computer and automatically shares all files across the Xunlei network, and often exhausts the user's upload bandwidth as it does not provide a real upload speed limiter. The user has no means of limiting what to be shared or not to be shared.[3]" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xunlei 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6022 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 50 of 62 25 November 2008 at 12:25pm | IP Logged | ||
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Ok, somewhat of an update. Ｉjust have mainly spent time listening to Chinese each day. Schools gonna be a big time sucker until mid-December. Over winter break I won't have to work so I can concentrate on my mandarin studies and apply for the scholarship to go abroad to study Chinese next year. My goals for the break are to get my character knowledge up to 3000. I also plan to really hit L-Ring over the break. I have the following audiobooks at my disposal now:
Ah Q Anna Karenina Around the World in 80 Days Dragon Sword Fortress Besieged Gulliver's Travels Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix Journey to the Center of the Earth Old Man and the Sea Outlaws at the Marsh Robinson Crusoe Sword of the Yue Maiden Tom Sawyer I may just keep going with Anna at first, since I have L-R it before to a degree. So, as an ESL teacher and as a language learner I've been thinking about methods and all that. My end goal is near-native fluency in Mandarin in the next 2-3 years. I've really no patience for a lot of traditional methods of language study, and I'm coming to the understanding that our brains can figure a lot out on their own. I read a lot of the ALG (automatic language growth) stuff, and I think some parts of it are valid. Also the Norsk Experiment shows some interesting ideas about language learning. I am coming to appreciate most of Krashen's ideas, despite lack of respect for him in the research sphere. Though I don't think comprehensible input is the golden ticket. There needs to be some useful error correction for output. I've been thinking about AJAAT, and been testing myself listening to The Old Man and the Sea. I find that if I believe I can understand it, I have a much easier time understanding what's being said, or at least I'm trying to guess more. I think one of the key points from Katsumoto follows:
I think TV is important because it provides contextual clues to help guess meaning. Audiobooks really lack that context, but I can still make guesses. I don't remember the exact plot of Old Man and the Sea, so those thoughts don't help a whole lot. There are still patterns though, and I already have a small vocabulary, so I can understand many things from that. There are so many words I've heard tons of times, but I don't know what they mean. I am still refraining from speaking unless it's pretty mentally unchallenging. I wish my thoughts were a little more organized in my writing. The main ideas I'm valuing right now: 1. I believe I can understand Mandarin well. 2. I will listen to Mandarin as much as I can, and I will learn things all the time. 3. My brain is able to figure out mandarin on it's own. I will guess meaning from context. 4. This will take some time, and at some point I may use an SRS for sentences. The SRS/sentences are not the point, but it can help remind me often of things. This will make things more efficient. 5. English is not necessary to learn Mandarin. 6. I will learn traditional Chinese characters through an SRS. This is simply the fastest way. I will learn over 5000 of them. 7. My main goal is to be able to read Chinese history books in chinese. I want to be able to do this within a years time without difficulty. 8. I can relax and enjoy Chinese. Edited by kealist on 25 November 2008 at 1:41pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sapphire Newbie Germany Joined 5643 days ago 39 posts - 39 votes Speaks: German* Studies: Mandarin | Message 51 of 62 25 November 2008 at 12:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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Wow, thank you so much for all the audio material! This will definitely help a lot. Good luck for your studies!
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| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6022 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 52 of 62 25 November 2008 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | ||
Thanks, just realize that pingshu8 is not so easy to use anymore. You have to use the xunlei software, which as is mentioned above may be rather spyware-ish. I haven't had problems with it stealing my network uploading, but it is possible. Good luck with your studies as well. They do have Da Vinci Code listed on their site, but it seems to not be downloadable at this point in time. If you use Xunlei, you can also download Spongebob Squarepants in Mandarin. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slattery Newbie United States dinglabs.com Joined 6262 days ago 13 posts - 38 votes Speaks: English* | Message 53 of 62 08 December 2008 at 9:19pm | IP Logged | ||
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Thanks, Kealist, for your wonderful list of Chinese audiobook resources!
I wanted to share a technique that I've found for listening-reading to the audiobooks, using a free open-source tool, "Transcriber". I posted an brief article about it, with a little example video: here http://slatterypod.com/2008/12/06/transcriber-secret-tool-fo r-language-learning So far, I've listened-read to two Chinese audiobooks with this and it's been great. I'd love to hear what other techniques people have. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6022 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 54 of 62 08 December 2008 at 10:37pm | IP Logged | ||
slattery, You're very welcome. I've known of transcriber--used it on a language documentation project I worked on--but I hadn't thought of using it for L-Ring. That sounds like a great idea! although I'm curious how much work the lining up of an audiobook would be. Would you be willing to share the transcriber file for one of those audiobooks so I could test it out? I have a script to convert transcriber files to multi-column html tables if one prefers to work in that format. Anyways, thank you for the suggestion. I have about 26 pages left to write in the next week before I finish the semester and begin on my chinese studies for the break. I am looking forward to it. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| slattery Newbie United States dinglabs.com Joined 6262 days ago 13 posts - 38 votes Speaks: English* | Message 55 of 62 29 December 2008 at 2:44pm | IP Logged | ||
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Just to give an idea, I uploaded a sample chapter here: http://rapidshare.com/files/177940148/Ch.01.zip.html
Transcriber sometimes has trouble seeking to the correct position in a large audio file unless the audio file is in WAV format. For that reason, I usually convert audios to WAV before using them with Transcriber. But .ogg format does work reasonably well. Let me know if you know of a good way to share these synchronized transcripts, I think they can be a great resources for us learners to share! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Thuan Triglot Senior Member GermanyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6716 days ago 133 posts - 156 votes Speaks: Vietnamese, German*, English Studies: French, Japanese, Romanian, Swedish, Mandarin | Message 56 of 62 16 April 2009 at 8:54am | IP Logged | ||
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Great thread and an excellent resource for students of Mandarin. The downside: How to download the audiobooks if you don`t want to install xunlei. I`ve just done a quick search on xunlei and the things I read didn`t sound very flattering. I`d rather not have this program on my harddrive. Is there another way to get the audiobooks?
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