"ha" and "wa" Japanese
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Posted By: EagerLearner
Subject: "ha" and "wa" Japanese
Date Posted: 2009 12 May at 8:12pm
Hello,
I'm wondering if someone who is fluent in Japanese could explain a bit about "ha" and "wa". (the Hiragana ha and wa). I've seen people using 㯠while the Romaji translation says "wa". I'm wondering why they mix the two up instead of just using 㯠for ha and ゠for wa. I'd really appreciate it if someone could explain the details to me !!
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Short version: they're not mixing it up. 㯠is pronounced 'wa' when used as a particle (my Japanese is too rusty to say if this is sometimes or always - sorry).
The good news: Japanese has very, very few quirks like this. The hiragana are generally pronounced as they're written.
Volte on 2009 12 May
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The particle ã¯ã€€is pronounced 'wa', so it's written that way in romaji.
The particle ã¸ã€€is pronounced 'e'.
The particle ã‚’ is pronounced 'o'.
Those are the only ones I can think of. They are extremely common, you'll catch on quickly.
By the way, れ is 're'. 'Wa' is ã‚.
Yukamina on 2009 12 May
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Oh sorry the site I was on had "re" written instead of "wa"
Anyways thanks a lot ^^
EagerLearner on 2009 12 May
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From Japanese wordplay:
ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã®ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¨ã‚らㆠ。
Two of "ã¯"s are particles, so pronounced "wa".
æ¯ã¯ã€Œãƒãƒãƒã€ã€æ¯ã®æ¯ã¯ã€Œãƒãƒãƒãƒã€ã¨ç¬‘ ã†ã€‚
haha wa "hahaha", haha no haha wa "hahahaha" to warau.
(Usually we say "obaasan" or "sobo" in stead of "haha no haha", but this is a wordplay)
uraniwaniwaniwaniwaniwaniwaniwatorigairu.
The sound "niwa" can have a lot of meenings.
ura-niwa niwa niwa, niwa niwa niwa niwatori ga iru.
è£åºã«ã¯ï¼’ç¾½ã€åºã«ã¯ï¼’羽ニワトリãŒã„る。
Amaki on 2009 13 May
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ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã®ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¨ã‚らㆠ。
Two of "ã¯"s are particles, so pronounced "wa".
æ¯ã¯ã€Œãƒãƒãƒã€ã€æ¯ã®æ¯ã¯ã€Œãƒãƒãƒãƒã€ã¨ç¬‘ ã†ã€‚
haha wa "hahaha", haha no haha wa "hahahaha" to warau.
(Usually we say "obaasan" or "sobo" in stead of "haha no haha", but this is a wordplay) |
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Wow that's tricky lol
Thanks for letting me know.
By the way, would this sentence be correct ??
ã‚ãªãŸ 㯠やã•ã—ã„
Assuming that "ha" replaces wa as the particle.
I'm a noob so I write with spaces and 95% in Kana xD
EagerLearner on 2009 13 May
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ã‚ãªãŸã¯ã‚„ã•ã—ã„。(anata wa yasashii.)
Yes. This is 100% grammatical (correct).
And in this example it is impossible to use "ga" instead of "wa".
The following constructions would sound more naturally:
ã‚ãªãŸã¯ã‚„ã•ã—ã„ã‚“ã§ã™ã。(anata wa yasashiin desune.)
ã‚ãªãŸã¯ã‚„ã•ã—ã„人ã§ã™ã。(anata wa yasashii hito desune.)
Amaki on 2009 14 May
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Awesome thanks a lot ^^
EagerLearner on 2009 14 May
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Trying to translate them to practice:
Amaki wrote:
From Japanese wordplay:
ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã®ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¯ã¨ã‚らㆠ。
Two of "ã¯"s are particles, so pronounced "wa".
æ¯ã¯ã€Œãƒãƒãƒã€ã€æ¯ã®æ¯ã¯ã€Œãƒãƒãƒãƒã€ã¨ç¬‘ ã†ã€‚
haha wa "hahaha", haha no haha wa "hahahaha" to warau.
(Usually we say "obaasan" or "sobo" in stead of "haha no haha", but this is a wordplay)
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Mother laughs "hahaha", mother's mother laughs "hahahaha".
Amaki wrote:
uraniwaniwaniwaniwaniwaniwaniwatorigairu.
The sound "niwa" can have a lot of meenings.
ura-niwa niwa niwa, niwa niwa niwa niwatori ga iru.
è£åºã«ã¯ï¼’ç¾½ã€åºã«ã¯ï¼’羽ニワトリãŒã„る。 |
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