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| Avid Learner Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4473 days ago 100 posts - 156 votes  Speaks: French*, English Studies: German | Message 1 of 20 19 August 2013 at 5:45am | IP Logged | ||
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Out of curiosity, I was wondering how people used spaced repetition program. So, do you enter easy words such as cognates, for example?
I do, most of the time. For example, I might recognize the word "organisieren", but I still enter it into Anki. My logic is that I may recognize it, but by the time I'll want to use it, I probably won't remember that it also exists in the German language. I might also do it because I want to retain the gender and the plural form, so I systematically search for new words in the dictionary. The same can be said of irregular conjugations. It might also help in avoiding the issue of false friends. I have also debated in the past whether to enter the verb form as well as the noun and adjective when they are so close, but again, I chose to enter them because it reinforces my memory. I don't do them all at once though, only when I encounter them. So far I have not regretted my choices, but I can imagine how one could see it as a waste of time. I'm sure there is no right or wrong method, it's everyone's choice to make, but I still wanted to know. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6720 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 2 of 20 19 August 2013 at 9:58am | IP Logged | ||
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I've basically entered "everything" since I've been a beginner in my languages (at that stage, no word is easy, although one is likely to know for instance pronouns, greetings, maybe numbers...).
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| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4344 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 3 of 20 19 August 2013 at 10:06am | IP Logged | ||
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I put in everything I thought I needed to remember. I even created separate cards for each letter, which was actually more helpful than it might seem since German pronounces letters differently from English.
For nouns I would create one card which had both singular and plural forms, plus gender. Rote learning the gender of lots of nouns early on is helpful later. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ezy Ryder Diglot Senior Member Poland youtube.com/user/Kat Joined 4160 days ago 284 posts - 387 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, Japanese | Message 4 of 20 19 August 2013 at 10:59am | IP Logged | ||
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Personally, I study with pre-made decks, and only L3->L2 (target language to English). Whenever
I encounter a word I can guess both the reading and the meaning of, I check whether my guess was correct, and if it was, I suspend the card. Japanese doesn't really have genders, so it's easier to learn nouns, however there are adjectives and verbs that may be hard to guess whether they are transitive or not, whether they conjugate as ru, or u- verbs, or if they need a "na", or "no" to modify a noun. And I just plan to learn (acquire?) this by reading. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 3955 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 5 of 20 19 August 2013 at 11:52am | IP Logged | ||
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I put words that are new to me. Cognates might be easy as passive vocabulary, but they're not necessarily easy as
active vocabulary. I always practice English > target language, since my goal with anki is to improve my active vocabulary. I really should suspend cards that are much too easy for me at this point (numbers, for instance) - but for some reason, I don't! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 5916 days ago 707 posts - 1219 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 6 of 20 19 August 2013 at 1:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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So called "easy" words are sometimes not so easy once they have been declined, conjugated or used in unfamilar ways.
So I add everything, and also add phrases that illustrate irregular and unusual forms of the word (where these forms are in common use). I skip the rare forms until later, but the original basic entry is still there for me to add stuff. My cards are always being refined and updated. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5343 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 7 of 20 19 August 2013 at 3:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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I rarely bother to put "transparent" or semi-transparent cognates in Anki. What I find is that if I do enough reading, I learn them without ever even realizing it. I can even spell them correctly and give fairly nuanced examples of how they're used.
But at least for me, Anki vocabulary decks are sheer torture once I reach a thousand words, because of all the words with similar meanings and the interference. I get the most benefit from sentence cards (with cloze deletion for prepositions or individual words in fixed phrases). In fact, between reading and sentence cards, my vocabulary is almost too big to speak comfortably—I often hesitate to remember a nice idiomatic expression that I've seen before, when I should probably plow through with a circumlocution. The big drawback with this approach is that sentence cards take too long to create unless I use copy-and-paste. I generally reserve Anki for vocabulary which I know I've seen several times, but which I still don't understand. I'd say I get 80% of my vocab via extensive activities, and 20% via Anki. Of course, French is a very transparent language for English speakers once you get past a certain point, which certainly biases my experiences! Edited by emk on 19 August 2013 at 3:12pm 6 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| mahasiswa Pentaglot Groupie Canada Joined 4243 days ago 91 posts - 142 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Malay Studies: Arabic (Egyptian), Persian, Russian, Turkish, Mandarin, Hindi | Message 8 of 20 19 August 2013 at 5:54pm | IP Logged | ||
I certainly wonder, with some abstract sense of guilt, whether I really ought to use Anki for languages transparent with English (French, German, to some extent Spanish, especially considering my knowledge of French). I never used flash cards in the past to learn French and Spanish (in high school) but during university, I did use flash cards for German a little bit. I depend on flash cards for my other languages, though, except, past a certain point it does seem more tedious than helpful although I think through my experiences with German I know that no matter how comfortable I am in a language, flash cards are rather helpful. For instance, I haven't used flash cards for Russian yet because I learned all my Russian through Assimil and now I want to move on to a bilingual reader, underlining new words in pencil. Especially as it concerns Russian, stress is hard to guess at first, although now it's more natural for me to place the stress on words without accents, I did look extensively for Russian flash cards with stress, without success. For Turkish, a language where stress is about as mobile as it is in Russian, I love flash cards. I'm using Assimil to learn Turkish, but I started using Anki to learn more vocabulary while still going through the lessons, whereas I was done using Assimil Russian before I started to try using flash cards to learn more. Anki has some really great pre-made Mandarin flash cards with audio files. For diacritic languages like Arabic and Hebrew, I find flash cards difficult to use without the vowelization. Despite being a language with diacritic vowels, I find it very comfortable or easy to study Persian flash cards. In short, it's completely dependent on the language whether I use Anki or not in the first place. As for putting in simple words, I totally do this, because it's much easier to tap "study in a week" or "study in a month" when I am absolutely sure I recognize it than to be reading a text and forget it with humiliation. For Mongolian, for instance, I'm still mixing up the various verbs of motion (it's like Turkish and Russian in this sense), whether one means to come, to go, to go to, to visit, to return, to return home, etc. These are nuances worth hammering out through repetition, and so yes, I do like to put in high frequency, "easy" words. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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