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| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4729 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 9 of 20 19 August 2013 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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At first I didn't use flashcards for learning French, because I was using Assimil and I figured I would pick up enough vocab "naturally". However, after I passed about lesson 40 of Assimil I tried to use simple readers (e.g. an LFF book with "Moins de 500 mots"), and I found there were a lot of words I still didn't know. So I bought the Routledge Frequency Dictionary in French, and have been working on them in Anki to ensure I know the most commonly used words. So far I'm up to about the 1200th most common word, and to answer the OP, I do put in every word, even words I already came across in Assimil or elsewhere. I find the vocab study, work on courses (Assimil, Pimsleur, FSI) and reading (easy readers, Le Petit Nicolas) all support each other nicely.
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| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5048 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 10 of 20 19 August 2013 at 11:09pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yes, that's why I usually enter them for recall purposes, but sometimes not for recognition. So yes to this card: Question: aria Answer: la aria But no to: Question: la aria Answer: aria
Yeah, if it's irregular, I enter it. I especially enter false friends.
I've come over time to support entry of more forms rather than fewer, for the reasons you state. As to easy words that aren't cognates, I usually always enter them if I can. Why? Because I've found often easy words a few years later vanish from my memory, no matter how well I knew them at one point. I recently for the life of me could not recall the Spanish word for crow, even though once I knew it well enough to think it unworthy of an Anki card. So I put it in. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Avid Learner Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4482 days ago 100 posts - 156 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: German | Message 11 of 20 20 August 2013 at 2:54am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Interesting! Almost every time I entered an "easy word", in the back of my mind, I was thinking that perhaps I was doing too much, but I see that I'm not alone.
True enough, each language is a different adventure. At the time I developed an interest which made me badly want to understand native English material, even if I wasn't very good yet, I knew enough "core" words and was able to absorb new words without ever thinking of writing them down. Once I got used to hearing near identical words pronounced differently, it went fast. In German, I do not have the level yet to be able to absorb various native material at a good enough speed to be able to avoid SRS altogether by compensating with the volume. Considering the much higher proportion of the language that is new to me, I feel I can't avoid studying words more systematically. However, I know eventually I will reach that point, it will just take me longer than it did in English.
I agree with you. I also have a deck with sentences and will include different conjugations of the word, for example. Aside from those sentences, I always study both ways (L1 <--> L2). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| luke Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 7025 days ago 3133 posts - 4351 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Esperanto, French | Message 12 of 20 20 August 2013 at 8:06am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Although I've used flash cards and Anki at various points in the past, I believe extensive Listen/Reading and Reading/Listening are more effective and more fun for vocabulary acquisition. Listen/Reading (L2 audio/L1 text) and Reading/Listening (L2 text/L1 audio) both allow far more words per minute to be covered and one has the benefit of context and possibly an interesting story to boot. Edited by luke on 20 August 2013 at 8:08am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Sunja Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5905 days ago 2020 posts - 2295 votes 1 sounds Speaks: English*, German Studies: French, Mandarin | Message 13 of 20 20 August 2013 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I use Anki to drill sentences and I input about 20 cards per day, but I also delete about 5-10 old ones in the same session. I have Anki open while I'm working on the computer so if there's something that I hear or read, I make a card. Fast typing speed and keyboard shortcuts from Anki-QuickInfo help make entering new cards a breeze. I still input words I already know basically for all the reasons that have been mentioned here already: I just don't know the language well enough not to include everything.
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| narigold Newbie United States Joined 3936 days ago 8 posts - 8 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 14 of 20 21 August 2013 at 8:46pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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@previous poster, I don't think it's a good to delete 5 -10 cards per day from Anki. That defeats the whole point of
the SRS system. At some point you will need a refresher of each card to keep it in your memory, even if it is months from now and you are just maintaining. Let Anki do it's job. @original poster, I say put everything in Anki. At first I was skipping over words I had learned elsewhere but then I realized I had forgotten some of those words because they weren't in Anki. For cognates, I put them in but after a few days of seeing them I click Easy. I don't abuse the Easy button, but for cognates I've been exposed to half a dozen times it is appropriate. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 4950 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 15 of 20 21 August 2013 at 9:04pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I prefer to use the language (read, listen, watch, speak, write, think, sing, play games etc.) in order to maintain it. I also prefer to be relaxed about forgetting the occasional basic word; this happens to me in my mother tongue all the time, so why should I stress about it in my second language(s)? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5048 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 16 of 20 21 August 2013 at 9:08pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I also think it's a terrible idea to delete cards, but I've had this discussion enough times to know that peoples' minds are unlikely to change.
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