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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 57 of 89 16 January 2013 at 8:05pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Of course 6wc data is not a valid criterion for voting, but it should be a valid criterion for determining who's still in. And I think the last-minute re-emerging should be encouraged - the more the merrier! Of course ideally you should re-emerge to say more than just mea culpa. As you can see I have no intention of voting for team Ne Nur just based on the associated data, but it would be ridiculous to say Sprachprofi, Volte and Arekkusu are not in. I've just thought of another very simple criterion - if your team wins, and someone mentions your log specifically when voting, you get the award even if you didn't post in December. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5073 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 58 of 89 16 January 2013 at 8:35pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I agree with Cristina on this. It should be based on TAC 2012 participation (and I'll add TAC participation only). I only kept my log up the first half of the year, because I actually stalled out on my progress. But I participated in a 6WC, albeit with a different language, and made good headway there. I also post and contribute almost daily in postings here. Does that mean I should be considered too? Absolutely not! The TAC is the TAC and the other challenges are other challenges, and the best way to measure a person or a team's progress is through their log entries for the TAC. To start considering anything beyond the TAC would get, as Cristina points out, messy. R. == 5 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
 Mae Trilingual Octoglot Pro Member Germany Joined 4934 days ago 299 posts - 499 votes Speaks: German*, SpanishC2*, Swiss-German*, FrenchC2, EnglishC2, ItalianB2, Dutch, Portuguese Studies: Russian, Swedish Personal Language Map | Message 59 of 89 16 January 2013 at 9:31pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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It may be a stupid question, but: wouldn't it be easier to set up a poll to vote?
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 60 of 89 17 January 2013 at 12:27am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Mae - I think the max number of options in a poll is less than the number of teams.
Meh, this whole thing feels like a chore. De facto TAC ends when the new year's thread is started. and yet some seem to think your language learning counts for nothing if you don't write a summary at the end. yet november is too early for a summary. Um, but we were basically trying to determine how to count who's in. How about counting whomever the team leader lists at the end of the year? I don't like to feel threatened. meh. Edited by Serpent on 17 January 2013 at 12:28am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 61 of 89 17 January 2013 at 12:46am | IP Logged | ||||||||
This just feels too much like giving the grades at my former uni. It doesn't matter how much you know, you just need to do the homework every day, and you're assessed based on the monthly grades. if you are diligent all term but start skipping classes at the end, you're in serious trouble. Edited by Serpent on 17 January 2013 at 12:50am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| hrhenry Octoglot Senior Member United States languagehopper.blogs Joined 5073 days ago 1871 posts - 3642 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishC2, ItalianC2, Norwegian, Catalan, Galician, Turkish, Portuguese Studies: Polish, Indonesian, Ojibwe | Message 62 of 89 17 January 2013 at 12:56am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Because they're completely different challenges with different goals, which may or may not include the same languages. My TAC 2012 and my 6WC had two different languages, decided upon at different times of the year, and I had different goals for each of them. Changing the rules and/or combining challenges going forward might merit some discussion, but 2012 is over, and people made plans on the then existing expectations. R. == 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6540 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 63 of 89 17 January 2013 at 1:04am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I'm yet to hear of anyone who was kicked out of TAC for starting a new language... Priorities change and it's natural. It's perfectly okay to continue your log when this happens, so I see no problem with other challenges. The main goal of TAC is just to study as much as possible.
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| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5338 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 64 of 89 17 January 2013 at 1:31am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I think that's a good idea. I agree with the criteria you have here. I think in order to properly participate in the TAC, you have to keep your log updated. Fairly regularly. No one is going to shoot you if you miss a week, but in order to have a cohesive team and support among team members, in addition to tracking your progress and people being able to follow you during the year, a log is really necessary.
Welcome to the real world where most of us live. :)
The bots ARE a nice way to track your progress, for anyone who follows them. I am rarely on Twitter, I have no desire to follow people or their progress there. The nature of Twitter is not conducive to something like this. The TAC is an HTLAL challenge and is set up around a team of people who encourage each other through their logs. Why do you feel like you're being attacked? No one is attacking you. :P Edited by Kerrie on 17 January 2013 at 1:32am 5 persons have voted this message useful |
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