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| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5387 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 73 of 89 18 January 2013 at 4:22am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Spanky, unless I can pay a lot of people off, I think Team Sputnik has enough votes to smoke the rest of us. :)
Regardless of who "wins" - it was the first TAC that I finished. And I'm proud of what I accomplished last year. So I'm already a winner. :) 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
 songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5201 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map | Message 74 of 89 18 January 2013 at 5:01am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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And for the individual TAC, I vote for Fasulye.
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| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5326 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 75 of 89 18 January 2013 at 6:55am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Have you seen anything which allows you to vote for your own team? What is going on here? Trying to vote for your own teams, offering to sell your votes? Could I ask people to please take this seriously? A lot of people put a lot of effort into this, and some of you are now making a travesty out of all their hard work. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5201 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map | Message 76 of 89 18 January 2013 at 7:39am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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SofridCristin,
On the small off-chance that you're serious with ref. to Spanky's vote, (and for newcomers who may not be familiar with his style), this quote (from the TAC Organization thread) may put it in context:
Having met him, I can assure you he's actually serious about wanting to learn French (and respectful of the many people on this forum who have succeeded with it and other languages), however much he may couch it in jocular terms. I seem to remember, in Dec 2011, wanting to give him his own, special "Tongue so firmly in cheek one wonders how he speaks any languages at all" Award; Looks like he may be a shoe-in for it again this year. <smile> Edited by songlines on 18 January 2013 at 7:44am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5326 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 77 of 89 18 January 2013 at 7:49am | IP Logged | ||||||||
I am sure that you are right about Spanky, but when people start voting for their own teams things start to get out of hand. There are a lot of great teams and great logs, but when you try to start voting for yourself then this is not any fun anymore. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Spanky Senior Member Canada Joined 5948 days ago 1021 posts - 1714 votes Studies: French | Message 78 of 89 18 January 2013 at 8:20am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks songlines and apologies Cristina and to anyone else who may have been offended
by my comments. I by no means intended to make a travesty of all the hard work put in by anyone. The point of my post, apparently not well-articulated, was to celebrate the hard work put in by everyone with the dedication to carry through with a TAC. Edited by Spanky on 18 January 2013 at 8:35am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5916 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish | Message 79 of 89 18 January 2013 at 8:51am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Edited by mick33 on 18 January 2013 at 9:10am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7148 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 80 of 89 18 January 2013 at 9:04am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Wow, this is the closest that I've come to disagreeing with Solfrid Cristin. I think that the problem is that by taking it seriously it takes the fun out of it and more seriously in my view subordinates language learning to doing it as part of some team formed over the ether. The recent back-and-forth involving Serpent, Kerrie and Solfrid Cristin among a few others didn't reflect well to me considering that we pride ourselves on building camaraderie (as much as it can be acheived) and knowing when to be serious, and when not to be. I've also found it a little weird to vote/argue over who's the winner of TAC because in the end it doesn't really matter. This doesn't even mention that the selection process is opaque/subjective and voters freely admit that they haven't (or won't deign to) read all of the logs thus erasing any semblance of balance or fairness - hence my comment on this being a popularity contest rather than serious reflection of someone who's actually made progress in learning a language. There's nothing wrong with a popularity contest, but it's more honest to act that that's what we're dealing with rather than making noise about trying to be objective or imposing criteria on the fly when we haven't given an iota of thought about it until now. The only thing to take seriously is the commitment to study a foreign language. Whether some people marry themselves to a particular brand or method to do it, or others study once in a blue moon, or still others act as lone wolves or in a wolf pack (to stay with the analogy), that's for every person to figure out. I like my teams for the support that they bring (inasmuch as it's possible with a bunch of strangers on the internet) but in the end it's still up to me to get off my ass and study. I'm not here to hold someone's hand to learn a language, but that doesn't mean I won't help when useful with links or attempts at reexplanations about something troublesome in a common target language. 4 persons have voted this message useful |
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