Gosiak Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 5118 days ago 241 posts - 361 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Norwegian, Welsh
| Message 41 of 89 08 January 2013 at 11:29am | IP Logged |
I'd vote for the enthusiasts of Georgian if they were a team (Expugnator, zecchino1991 and TixhiiDon). They put a huge amount of work into mastering this in my opinion unpopular language with far too small number of valuable resources, I admire their dedication.
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hribecek Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5341 days ago 1243 posts - 1458 votes Speaks: English*, Czech, Spanish Studies: Italian, Polish, Slovak, Hungarian, Toki Pona, Russian
| Message 42 of 89 08 January 2013 at 8:05pm | IP Logged |
I would probably vote for the Georgian students too if they had a team.
My vote goes to Team Žá.
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songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5201 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map
| Message 43 of 89 09 January 2013 at 1:19am | IP Logged |
The TAC 2012 Official Thread had a mid-thread summary of the team lists: http://how-to-learn-any-
language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=30236&PN=1&TPN=19#346 571 (Copy and paste, removing any
spaces inserted by the forum software.) The team list isn't accurate (e.g. there's only one Individual Challenge
participant, and Sputnik was listed as having only four members), but there doesn't seem to have been a more
recent full list.
(Does anyone know if the Catalan Team finished? And what happened to the Germanic-Sinitic Team? Are there
any other teams or TAC particpants MIA from this voting thread? If so, could the members please give a shout? -
And link to your logs!)
Questions:
When does/should the voting wrap up? Should we give people another week? Or...?
And what can/should we do to encourage people to vote before the deadline (whenever it is)? - Perhaps if
people post reminders on their respective TAC 2013 threads...?
Even if people haven't been following logs throughout the year, they could - since we now have most of the
links of finishers handily gathered in this thread - perhaps scan some of the ones they've missed? Those for
their respective target languages would of course be likely to be of the most immediate use, but reading logs for
others can also be both very inspiring and useful (re. learning strategies and re. log-keeping).
Edited by songlines on 11 January 2013 at 4:25am
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songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5201 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map
| Message 44 of 89 09 January 2013 at 1:31am | IP Logged |
It's something of a cliché for people, in situations such as this, to say, "It was hard making a decision; there were
so many excellent candidates". And I'm afraid I won't be able to avoid the cliché: there were indeed many
wonderful logs which I've read/skimmed over the past week or so!
A few notes:
It's really handy having lists of the "finishers" here in one thread, and I hope we'll do that again at the end of
2013.
I'm glad to have had a chance to read many forum members whom I would not otherwise have discovered. Like
Cristina, I'd focussed on the logs written by my team-mates, and by those Htlal-ers studying one of my target
languages. (Of course, Cristina's list of target languages is much longer than mine!) This little pre-voting
binge gave me exposure to so many others...
It also exposed me to many different styles of log-keeping and study techniques. Some elements that made
logs more accessible for me:
- Some sort of "hook" or theme for the team or individual log, such as Team Sputnik's - well, Sputnik and related
space theme, or the Polish "bison" helped to foster team spirit and liven things up.
- Occasional personal details to round out bare numeric tallies. Ideally, the best had a bit of everything:
something about the language itself (grammar, interesting vocab, etc.); personal elements (e.g. encounters with
native speakers); record-keeping of work done (books read, films seen, lessons covered). And, most important,
enthusiasm for the language and a sense of commitment to learning it.
-Translations / summaries in English, of any text in the L2. It doubles the work for the author of the log,
especially if he/she doesn't have English as his/her native tongue, but it's really appreciated when someone's
taken the trouble to do it.
- Humour.
- One aspect I considered was how well the team also functioned as a team: members visiting and
commenting in each other's threads, sharing advice, showing esprit de corps. - Again, humour certainly
also played a role in fostering that team spirit.
Many TAC participants were on more than one team, but logged different languages on the one thread. - It
would have been futile trying to do do several "passes" mentally separating posts related to one language from
another, so I didn't try. I think it "all came out in the wash", and Team A didn't unfairly end up getting/losing
"credit" for writing that someone had done for language studies on Team B.
I'll wait a little bit to see if any teams which are possibly missing in action in this thread turn up; but otherwise
will likely cast my vote tomorrow.
Edited by songlines on 09 January 2013 at 1:33am
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meramarina Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5959 days ago 1341 posts - 2303 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Italian, French Personal Language Map
| Message 45 of 89 09 January 2013 at 1:47am | IP Logged |
Thanks for the Polish bison votes ! I, however, most certainly did not do very well. I hope that changes soon, too many things with me are still in post-storm turmoil, and I'm trying to continue, but my brain has not been cooperating. It's never been this difficult to concentrate before. But you are right that our team is a fine herd of bisonfolk and I look forward to the rest of the year.
I really like your TAC evaluation list songlines, I'll try to keep them in mind this year!
There are so many logs and teams and participants now, which is wonderful. I just wish we had a better way of organizing and keeping track of individual and team TAC activity. IT would help a lot at the end of the year. I'm uncertain about voting this year because I know I've missed a lot of really good stuff.
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aloysius Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6232 days ago 226 posts - 291 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, German Studies: French, Greek, Italian, Russian
| Message 46 of 89 09 January 2013 at 8:14pm | IP Logged |
songlines wrote:
When does/should the voting wrap up? Should we give people another week? Or...?
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Yes, could we please have another week! It is hard making a decision :)
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5839 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 47 of 89 09 January 2013 at 8:25pm | IP Logged |
aloysius wrote:
songlines wrote:
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We still haven't got enough votes now, so I would also recommend another voting week.
My suggestion: VOTING TILL 20 January 2013
Fellow TAC-ers, please take part and vote here! :)
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 09 January 2013 at 8:29pm
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Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6097 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish
| Message 48 of 89 13 January 2013 at 5:18pm | IP Logged |
Dozens and dozens of people participated in TAC 2012, yet we only have a handful of votes so far, and just a week before the closing deadline.
Don't let voter apathy ruin the result, come on people - get voting!!!
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