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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6588 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 17 of 40 30 June 2013 at 5:40pm | IP Logged |
Finding the time is easy if you change your lifestyle and don't do things in your native language. That's how I go about it. A language needs to "grow" in your brain anyway, and you don't need just time but also the desire to devote it to one language. If I were learning fewer languages, I would simply devote less total time to them and have the same results, if not worse (less synergy and help from related languages).
Learning a language in a year sounds good, but how many people do that? Those who believe in the one language at a time thing tend to spend just as many years but with less time devoted. If you learn one language, you 'set aside' the time. Or sometimes you don't.
I also don't set aside the time - because I'm almost constantly learning something. I don't take breaks, the thought is as ridiculous to me as taking a break from breathing or eating.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6588 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 19 of 40 30 June 2013 at 7:17pm | IP Logged |
TV and computer games are fine if you do these in your target language :)
Criminal case is awesome for learning the names of household items and other everyday stuff (physical objects).
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| Retinend Triglot Senior Member SpainRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4299 days ago 283 posts - 557 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish Studies: Arabic (Written), French
| Message 20 of 40 30 June 2013 at 7:20pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
Learning a language in a year sounds good, but how many people do that?
Those who believe in the one language at a time thing tend to spend just as many years
but with less time devoted. If you learn one language, you 'set aside' the time. Or
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Well lots of people fail in general because of a lack of motivation, it's true (though
not relevant). But presuming that the effort is equal between the two cases, the "one-at-
a-time" guy will have faster results than the "two-at-a-time" guy.
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4698 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 21 of 40 30 June 2013 at 7:22pm | IP Logged |
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Learning a language in a year sounds good, but how many people do that? Those who
believe in the one language at a time thing tend to spend just as many years but with
less time devoted. If you learn one language, you 'set aside' the time. Or sometimes you
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Even better, you just do it. It's not a conscious question of "have to"
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6588 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 22 of 40 30 June 2013 at 7:50pm | IP Logged |
Retinend wrote:
Well lots of people fail in general because of a lack of motivation, it's true (though not relevant). But presuming that the effort is equal between the two cases, the "one-at-a-time" guy will have faster results than the "two-at-a-time" guy. |
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Only if he/she truly loves that language, the way I love Finnish or Cristina loves Spanish. Otherwise burnout will come into play.
And it also depends on the techniques and priorities. If you don't need active skills from the beginning, it's more efficient to build up passive skills gradually in 2+ languages. if you read a lot AND listen to audiobooks, the words will move to your active vocabulary.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6588 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 24 of 40 01 July 2013 at 4:46pm | IP Logged |
Rogozhkin is known for his films taking place in Finland, starring Ville Haapasalo :)
Yeees the narrator matters.
Written texts for Russian are no problem. My main objection for getting a e-reader was that in Russian it's easy to find almost anything for free. My parents don't understand that in other languages it's not like that.
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