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migs
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Studies: Portuguese

 
 Message 25 of 30
15 July 2014 at 8:04pm | IP Logged 
Day 10

http://www.bbc.co.uk/languages/portuguese/talk/summer/
Oh boy. The "cheching!". This was a good lesson in the differences between pronunciation between Brazilian and European Portuguese. I'm sure the Brazilian was putting on their best accent, I've never heard Brazilian spoken so clear and understandable (maybe I've got my Brazil ear in?). More likely they are over-enunciating and speaking slowly for us dumb foreigners ;-(

I you in the UK you get an extra lesson consisting of a few short documentaries on various places in Portugal - us plebs in the colonies must do without :-P.

Chapter 9 Vou encontrar-me com ela amanhã

Colloquial future. I am going to enjoy this ...

Progress BBC 10/10 TYS 9/25 = 42% overall
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migs
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Studies: Portuguese

 
 Message 26 of 30
15 July 2014 at 8:40pm | IP Logged 
Resource

Teach Yourself 50 ways to improve your Portuguese by Helena Tostevin and Manuela Cook
A little spit an polish to buff things up after I'm done with the Complete. After this I hope to be ready to switch to native grammars, and read-speak betters.
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migs
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Studies: Portuguese

 
 Message 27 of 30
16 July 2014 at 7:02pm | IP Logged 
Day 11
So I'm done with the BBC, I'm adding these 14 beginners readers, and two slots for Chicken Little and re-basing my progress.
http://rumaccc.unimelb.edu.au/readers/east-timorese-language s/portuguese

I note my elapsed days are narely double my work days, I didn't realize I'd been skipping that much.

I've put my back out detailing my car, so I'm gonna try use this downtime to play catch up.

http://rumaccc.unimelb.edu.au/sites/rumaccc.unimelb.edu.au/f iles/After-school-portuguese-colour.pdf
Depois da escola

Note page 6 uses "Depois da escolar
nós brincamos ao arco"
I think the "r" may be a typo.

Basically using a frame of "After school we play ..." to cycle through a bunch of clauses, that can be inferred from the pictures if you don't have the vocab.

Very satisfying, keen for more.

Chapter 10 Ontem fui de carro
Nice false friend, and just to dress it up the sentence is about going to the beach:
como de costume - as usual

Feeling a bit lost, need to polish up conjugation of regular verbs, ir, estar, ser, haver. Need to dedicate some serious practice time on this.

Glossary
Preterite indicative = past tense

Progress RUM 1/14 TYS 10/25 = 46% overall
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migs
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28 posts - 32 votes
Speaks: Afrikaans, English*
Studies: Portuguese

 
 Message 28 of 30
21 July 2014 at 11:51am | IP Logged 
Day 12

http://rumaccc.unimelb.edu.au/sites/rumaccc.unimelb.edu.au/f iles/All-kinds-of-tails-portuguese-colour.pdf
Errata Page 3 -
"O macaco tem una cauda comprida."
Should be
"O macaco tem uma cauda comprida."

Keep an eye out for "direita" = right / straight.

Chapter 11 Lugares e pessoas
Errata p. 137
east is labeled "este ou leste"
should be "este / leste"

Errata p. 138
11.2.1 The map is not sufficiently clear or detailed to answer question ii.
There should be wind indicators in the NE and SE

Errata p. 148
"9. O meu marido ..."
Don't use this it's portuglish, though found spoken in Africa. Use "esposa/o"

Progress RUM 2/14 TYS 11/25 = 49%
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migs
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 Message 29 of 30
22 July 2014 at 3:35pm | IP Logged 
Day 13

http://rumaccc.unimelb.edu.au/sites/rumaccc.unimelb.edu.au/f iles/Come-and-see-portuguese-colour.pdf
Should be read earlier in the series, possibly first.

Chapter 12 Siga em frente
Errata p. 152
"mais um-uma"
should be
"mais um/uma"
same on p. 153

Note: "O fiambre (Eur.) / O presunto (Br.) - ham" but also if you do ask for "O presunto" in Portugal you will get preserved salted pork (like Italian prechuto).

Notable increase in ease in pronunciation, this go a lot faster and easier, at least for familiar words. A new word can slow things down considerably.

Progress RUM 3/14 TYS 12/25 = 53% overall
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migs
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Speaks: Afrikaans, English*
Studies: Portuguese

 
 Message 30 of 30
22 July 2014 at 5:06pm | IP Logged 
Resource

lang-8.com
Signed up today, keen to build up some credit, shy to start submitting, don't feel I'm ready.

http://www.frontiersjournal.com/issues/vol4/vol4-04_Pelligri no.htm
"Student Perspectives on Language Learning in a Study Abroad Context" by
Valerie A. Pellegrino, The Ohio State University

Nice academic survey.


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