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| anytram Bilingual Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5660 days ago 85 posts - 89 votes  Speaks: German*, Polish*, French, English Studies: Japanese | Message 25 of 42 18 May 2009 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | ||
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I agree with Bao here, as long as you're slightly comfortable with Russian (in this case), it should be okay. If you still struggle though...
I'm learning Japanese at a French university (not being French) and in the beginning it has been tough at times. It still actually is. I've a problem interpreting Japanese into other languages than French, so I'm trying to have a shot at Japanese-Japanese methods and Japanese-German/English. Then again, it was probably my tight schedule rather than the language hopping which was difficult to deal with. You start with basics, if the basics are solid in your transitory language (=Russian) than it should be no problem for the basics in another language, right? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Strannik Diglot Newbie Russian Federation Joined 5660 days ago 16 posts - 16 votes Speaks: Russian*, English | Message 26 of 42 18 May 2009 at 3:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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My friend and I did that as well. We are native speakers of Russian, but have started
learning German and Spanish using English textbooks. It is quite efficient, I personally like English textbooks more than the Russian once. From my point of view, there is a better explanation of the material + extra practice of English. So I think there is nothing wrong if you use Russian textbooks. However, if you want the English ones, I think you can order them from Amazon.. Good luck!! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| cordelia0507 Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5829 days ago 1473 posts - 2176 votes Speaks: Swedish* Studies: German, Russian | Message 27 of 42 19 May 2009 at 1:32am | IP Logged | ||
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I'm doing it right now and I hate it. The only reason I do it is because I'm living abroad and couldn't find language in my native language.
In my opinion it only makes sense if you are very good at the language you are learning "from" AND that language is closer to the language you are trying to learn than your own mother tongue. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| andee Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 7068 days ago 681 posts - 724 votes 3 sounds Speaks: English*, German, Korean, French | Message 28 of 42 19 May 2009 at 1:09pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've used some French materials for Korean but that was for supplementary study. I'm nowhere near fluent in French.
And while I study with English materials for Japanese, I make Korean comparisons because they are closer in relation both on vocabulary meaning and grammatical concept. I've found this not only consolidates my Korean but makes Japanese acquisition a lot faster with little confusion. Perhaps because my brain is associating Japanese with Korean, whereas all my other languages are linked to English. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| aabram Pentaglot Senior Member Estonia Joined 5524 days ago 138 posts - 263 votes Speaks: Estonian*, English, Spanish, Russian, Finnish Studies: Mandarin, French | Message 29 of 42 18 October 2009 at 8:26pm | IP Logged | ||
Well, learning Ln via L2 is usually the only option for speakers of smaller languages. For example there are no published textbooks for any Asian languages in Estonian that I know of. Courses with native teachers - yes, publicly available textbooks - no. It is not unusual to see language courses advertisements with smallprint stating that they use English textbooks for that particular language. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5526 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese | Message 30 of 42 21 October 2009 at 5:54pm | IP Logged | ||
How much does knowledge of Korean seem to help with learning Japanese? I'm curious to have input from someone actually doing this as once I reach a level I'm happy with in Korean, Japanese will very likely be the next language I learn. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Elwing Tetraglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 5499 days ago 43 posts - 51 votes Speaks: Swedish, Finnish*, English, French Studies: Norwegian | Message 31 of 42 27 October 2009 at 12:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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I think it's useful to learn a third language through a second if they are related because that enables you to think of the new language a little bit like another form of the other which I find much easier (I study Norwegian through Swedish).
I also have experience of changing the studying language whilst learning (I started studying French in Finnish but for the last three years I've studied it in English). Although I do find that when I have to translate words into French now I do it from English, I feel that I'm not relying as much on having a foundation language as I was before and so I've started to concentrate on learning the French grammar as French grammar rather than trying to compare it to the grammar of any other language. In that way I have found the switch very useful. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ericspinelli Diglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5774 days ago 249 posts - 493 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Korean, Italian | Message 32 of 42 28 October 2009 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | ||
Korean is the easiest language for Japanese native speakers to learn and Japanese is even easier for Koreans. The only speed bump will be kanji. There is no reason not to learn one through the other if you can. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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