Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5526 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese
| Message 33 of 42 28 October 2009 at 4:52pm | IP Logged |
ericspinelli wrote:
Korean is the easiest language for Japanese native speakers to learn and Japanese is even easier for Koreans. The only speed bump will be kanji. There is no reason not to learn one through the other if you can. |
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Thanks for the input. I do plan to learn Hanja at some point during my Korean studies, so hopefully that advance knowledge of Chinese characters will help when learning Kanji in Japanese.
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FuroraCeltica Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6856 days ago 1187 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French
| Message 34 of 42 10 November 2009 at 9:47am | IP Logged |
It depends. Since my French reached a high level, I have been buying French materials for future languages I intend to learn (e.g. Assimil Spanish, with French as language of instruction). I think with them being related languages it is helpful.
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JJ-JUNIOR Triglot Newbie Brazil nideck.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5618 days ago 13 posts - 14 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC1, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: French, German
| Message 35 of 42 11 November 2009 at 12:20am | IP Logged |
I'm doing this with German, french and even Spanish!
There are no prejudices with this, my friend.
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chalokun Tetraglot Groupie FranceRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5463 days ago 58 posts - 55 votes Speaks: French, Spanish*, English, Japanese
| Message 36 of 42 04 May 2010 at 4:34pm | IP Logged |
I learn some basic chinese from japanese and it was very interesting although not that efficient it would have bennin french or Spanish;ont he other hand my japanese skills increased a lot;at this point you have to take into account the specificity of the target language (L3);nowadays we know for instance than when you think in chinese you don't use the same parts of the brain than in westerne language so I guess from a neurobilogical point of view it makes sense to learn chinese in japanese so there no necessary a point in saying yes but only if L2 is closed to L3;it depends of what languages you already know for instance,what is the average pitch & frequency in Hertz of the language you're trying to learn(I personnaly think than learning from higher to lower pitch is easier than the opposite);one more thing if you want to learn a lot of language it is almost compulsory to act this way because you can take the luxury to learn language one by one;I met a korean guy who decided to learn in the same time Italian ,spanish,portuguese,& french to avoid confusion and it worked pretty well but he was particularly gifted I must say....
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6002 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 37 of 42 06 May 2010 at 11:04pm | IP Logged |
chalokun wrote:
nowadays we know for instance than when you think in chinese you don't use the same parts of the brain than in westerne language |
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I have never heard this -- can you provide a reference?
I was of the understanding that there are only two different areas of the brain that languages can reside in, and that the difference between them is that all infant-learned languages sit in one part and all adult-learned languages in the other. This is regardless of the similarity between languages.
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Lucky Charms Diglot Senior Member Japan lapacifica.net Joined 6940 days ago 752 posts - 1711 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: German, Spanish
| Message 38 of 42 07 May 2010 at 6:41am | IP Logged |
Cainntear wrote:
I was of the understanding that there are only two different areas of the brain that languages can reside in, and that the difference between them is that all infant-learned languages sit in one part and all adult-learned languages in the other. This is regardless of the similarity between languages. |
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This is correct.
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qklilx Moderator United States Joined 6177 days ago 459 posts - 477 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Korean Personal Language Map
| Message 39 of 42 08 May 2010 at 11:55am | IP Logged |
I plan to learn my L2 via my L3, if that makes any sense.
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ReneeMona Diglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 5326 days ago 864 posts - 1274 votes Speaks: Dutch*, EnglishC2 Studies: French
| Message 40 of 42 08 May 2010 at 1:48pm | IP Logged |
I learnt French in school through Dutch but now that it's all self-study I learn through a mix of some English (i.a. Pimsleur), a bit of Dutch and a lot of French immersion without any translation to teach myself to think in the language. I often look up a word or expression I don't know in both English and Dutch to create connections between the three because I would hate it if I were fluent in French but had to translate everything to English and then to Dutch instead of just directly to Dutch.
Edited by ReneeMona on 08 May 2010 at 1:49pm
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