Warp3 Senior Member United States forum_posts.asp?TID= Joined 5536 days ago 1419 posts - 1766 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Korean, Japanese
| Message 73 of 97 29 May 2010 at 10:55pm | IP Logged |
horshod wrote:
Indian languages have specific words for many relations which is I think pretty unique. They have separate words for maternal and paternal uncle/aunt/grandparents. |
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Korean is actually somewhat similar in this respect (often changing relationship terms based on marital status, paternal/maternal side of the family, comparative age, and sometimes gender of speaker).
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Derian Triglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5309 days ago 227 posts - 464 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Czech, French, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 74 of 97 30 May 2010 at 2:12am | IP Logged |
iknowchristalen wrote:
English needs a word for "Ihr" (you, pural) because you all takes to long to say and ya'll sounds uneducated. |
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Haha, no. English needs the word for "Du" [you, singular], because 'you' is actually plural.
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lynxrunner Bilingual Triglot Senior Member United States crittercryptics.com Joined 5923 days ago 361 posts - 461 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish*, French Studies: Russian, Swedish, Haitian Creole
| Message 75 of 97 30 May 2010 at 5:08am | IP Logged |
Derian wrote:
Haha, no. English needs the word for "Du" [you, singular], because 'you'
is actually plural. |
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"You" used to be only plural (unless applied to one person) and now it serves as both
plural and singular. Saying that "you" is a plural noun is a bit of a misnomer.
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Doitsujin Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 5321 days ago 1256 posts - 2363 votes Speaks: German*, English
| Message 76 of 97 30 May 2010 at 7:12am | IP Logged |
Cherepaha wrote:
Russian also has a word "фраер". [...]
Wiktionary says that its origins are traced back to German "Freier"/adj."frei"(= free).
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This proves once again that one cannot fully rely on Wiktionary, because "Freier" is not related to "frei". According to the Duden (the leading German spelling dictionary), it has been derived from Middle Low German "vrier" which in turn was derived from "vrien" (=asking for a girl's hand in marriage). BTW, in present-day German, it's only used to refer to the customers of prostitutes. This might explain the negative connotation both in German and Yiddish.
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Derian Triglot Senior Member PolandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5309 days ago 227 posts - 464 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, German Studies: Spanish, Russian, Czech, French, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 77 of 97 30 May 2010 at 11:56am | IP Logged |
lynxrunner wrote:
"You" used to be only plural (unless applied to one person) and now it serves as both plural and singular. Saying that "you" is a plural noun is a bit of a misnomer. |
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Duh! But that's totally beside the point.
Edited by Derian on 30 May 2010 at 11:58am
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Moogiechan Newbie United States Joined 5299 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese
| Message 78 of 97 30 May 2010 at 1:50pm | IP Logged |
Derian wrote:
iknowchristalen wrote:
English needs a word for "Ihr" (you, pural) because you all takes to long to say and ya'll sounds uneducated. |
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Haha, no. English needs the word for "Du" [you, singular], because 'you' is actually plural. |
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"Thou" is the the English singular 2nds person. We just don't use it much. It's as if the French started using "vous" exclusively, and stopped using "tu". If I'm correct, to use the OP's reference,it's also as if the Germans used "Sie" all the time, and stopped using "du".
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ladanoise Groupie United States Joined 5294 days ago 45 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Danish
| Message 79 of 97 02 June 2010 at 5:25am | IP Logged |
Danish also has words for aunts, uncles, and grandparents depending on whether they are related to the mother or father.
Danish also has a word that I love "boernerig" (sorry no keyboard) which means many children but is literally rich in children.
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Adamdm Groupie Australia Joined 5438 days ago 62 posts - 89 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Dari, German, Spanish, Russian, Arabic (Written)
| Message 80 of 97 02 June 2010 at 10:00am | IP Logged |
Moogiechan wrote:
Derian wrote:
iknowchristalen wrote:
English needs a word for "Ihr" (you, pural) because you all takes to long to say and ya'll sounds uneducated. |
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Haha, no. English needs the word for "Du" [you, singular], because 'you' is actually plural. |
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"Thou" is the the English singular 2nds person. We just don't use it much. It's as if the French started using "vous" exclusively, and stopped using "tu". If I'm correct, to use the OP's reference,it's also as if the Germans used "Sie" all the time, and stopped using "du". |
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The word "yous" (sometimes transcribed as "youse") is sometines used (!) in Australia, although it is looked down on as a vulgarism or sign of ignorance. I however, see the word as having a real use, seeing that "you" now means "thou", and thou art no more to be heard.
I like to use yous whenever I have an opportunity (and remember) to do so, and I recommend its use to yous all, too.
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