linguaholic_ch Triglot Groupie IndiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5052 days ago 69 posts - 96 votes Speaks: English, Hindi, Bengali Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, French
| Message 145 of 197 03 March 2014 at 6:20pm | IP Logged |
Gemuse wrote:
linguaholic_ch wrote:
Students who have studied in private schools
have English as
their first language and
they don't have any problems later on whether study Engineering, Medical or do their
Majors. But there are Government schools still that do not teach English that well,
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Not necessarily. Students can get a reasonable grasp of English in public, non-English
medium schools.
linguaholic_ch, you are projecting some complex here. I know tons and tons of people
who went to public school. had English as L2/L3 and who had no language problems in
University. Their speaking ability might not have been that good when entering
University, but usually they had been reading English literature (outside of school)
since adolescence, and thus their reading and understanding was C2. What matters is the
prevalence of English outside of school. If kids read English novels, have science
textbooks in English, they will not have language problems after High School.
But I will say that there are some people who DO have trouble in University. These are
people who have neither had a decent exposure to English in school, nor had a decent
exposure to literary English, and thus are not comfortable with the language. |
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Sorry Gemuse, forgive my flaw. I just meant to say, many public schools IN Indian
states are not of that standard to make people fluent in English. There are students
among these schools who do not have problems, but it is a common problem here.
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linguaholic_ch Triglot Groupie IndiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5052 days ago 69 posts - 96 votes Speaks: English, Hindi, Bengali Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, French
| Message 146 of 197 03 March 2014 at 6:22pm | IP Logged |
Gemuse wrote:
linguaholic_ch wrote:
I am simply stating what I see and observe among
the majority of
students. |
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Your sample is limited. Now you know. |
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Yes it is limited. Thank you for pointing it. Everything depends upon the student
ultimately.
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Gemuse Senior Member Germany Joined 4086 days ago 818 posts - 1189 votes Speaks: English Studies: German
| Message 147 of 197 03 March 2014 at 6:23pm | IP Logged |
linguaholic_ch wrote:
When they grow up they tend to lose it, due to
it's inefficiency. |
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http://www.its-not-its.info/
:D
Edited by Gemuse on 03 March 2014 at 6:24pm
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linguaholic_ch Triglot Groupie IndiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5052 days ago 69 posts - 96 votes Speaks: English, Hindi, Bengali Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, French
| Message 148 of 197 03 March 2014 at 6:25pm | IP Logged |
Thank you, Danke and Merci! And I am sorry for everything .
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napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5020 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 149 of 197 03 March 2014 at 7:18pm | IP Logged |
The actual situation is not all that bad.
Yes, private schools tend to do a better job at teaching English.
But, not all private schools are created equal. The demand for Engligh medium education has led to private schools mushrooming all over the place. Just the other day, I was at the annual sports day of one such school, and the announcer's English was atrocious.
In India, missionary schools are widely regarded as places which teach the best English. This makes unscrupulous businessmen, who are not even Christians, name their schools after obscure saints. LOL :-)
But do missionary schools "convert" kids into brown sahibs who speak the Queen's English?
No. Most children leave school with reasonable skills: They can read. They can write applications.
Can they speak?
Nope. Not all can. Sorry. :-(
Have they forgotten their mother tongue?
Of course not! They have had to study it at school. The diglossia present in Indian languages makes learning them more of a challenge than English.
Is English driving the major Indian languages to extinction?
Nope. Not even close. We have strong literary traditions in all the major Indian languages. Most people watch the news in their mother tongue. Only a tiny minority prefers the English media.
Edited by napoleon on 04 March 2014 at 12:36am
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Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4913 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German
| Message 150 of 197 04 March 2014 at 12:07am | IP Logged |
Gemuse wrote:
I have never heard or experienced this.
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Gemuse wrote:
Your sample is limited. Now you know.
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Ditto.
But back on topic, what I find funny is all of the signs advertising "Advance Studies in English".
Edited by Jeffers on 04 March 2014 at 12:08am
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napoleon Tetraglot Senior Member India Joined 5020 days ago 543 posts - 874 votes Speaks: Bengali*, English, Hindi, Urdu Studies: French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 151 of 197 04 March 2014 at 12:34am | IP Logged |
Jeffers wrote:
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But back on topic, what I find funny is all of the signs advertising "Advance Studies in English". |
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Exactly.
But you're more likely see "Advance C/C++/Java".
There's even a place here that claims to teach "Advance Oxford English". LOL :-)
Edited by napoleon on 04 March 2014 at 12:46am
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linguaholic_ch Triglot Groupie IndiaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5052 days ago 69 posts - 96 votes Speaks: English, Hindi, Bengali Studies: Japanese, Esperanto, French
| Message 152 of 197 04 March 2014 at 8:34am | IP Logged |
Everyone, I apologize for the inconvenience caused. Please forgive my posts.
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