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| LangOfChildren Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 5428 days ago 82 posts - 141 votes  Speaks: German*, English, French, Swedish Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai, Russian | Message 1 of 59 10 June 2010 at 3:14pm | IP Logged | ||
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Suppose you have 120 hours of pure language study time to spend on a completely new
language, what would be the most efficient way to get as far as possible in that language? Please feel free to bring anything that seems worth mentioning into the discussion, try to think outside the box here, if you can. Let's start from the premise that the learner in question is able to withstand anything they may be put through during this (theoretical) experiment. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Adrean TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member France adrean83.wordpress.c Joined 6169 days ago 348 posts - 411 votes Speaks: FrenchC1 | Message 2 of 59 10 June 2010 at 3:21pm | IP Logged | ||
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In terms of hours I would spend the first hours working with the Michel Thomas foundation courses. I would go through the course 3 times so 30 hours.
I would combine this the first 50 lessons from Assimil up to lesson 50, 30 minutes each day. So thats another 25 hours. At a later point I would incorportate the first C.D from a Pimsleur course. Thats another 15 hours. I would think then about commencing with a few audiobooks which are relatively easy. An obvious example may be Harry Potter or Le Petit Prince. 20 hours. Next I would move onto an advanced Michel Thomas course. 6 hours. The rest of time I would spend on movies and or podcats. That would be my introduction to a new language if I was to take one up. 4 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6440 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 3 of 59 10 June 2010 at 6:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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L-R.
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| LangOfChildren Tetraglot Groupie Germany Joined 5428 days ago 82 posts - 141 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Swedish Studies: Mandarin, Japanese, Thai, Russian | Message 4 of 59 10 June 2010 at 6:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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Volte, I'm glad you're saying that. :)
I was actually thinking that myself, but needed someone else's oppinion. So I guess what you're saying is that all of the 120 hours should be spent L-R'ing? Supposedly 50 hours of L-R can be enough to reach natural listening and thus basic fluency. Edited by LangOfChildren on 10 June 2010 at 6:24pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| datsunking1 Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5586 days ago 1014 posts - 1533 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: German, Russian, Dutch, French | Message 5 of 59 10 June 2010 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | ||
That's it? maybe thats why my listening skills are horrible :( 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7016 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 6 of 59 10 June 2010 at 11:00pm | IP Logged | ||
The key word here is "supposedly". 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| magictom123 Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5594 days ago 272 posts - 365 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 7 of 59 10 June 2010 at 11:15pm | IP Logged | ||
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being unemployed at the mo I have a lot of free time and would like to know if indeed
anyone has had the success of reaching basic fluency from scratch using the l-r method only. volte, have you done this? I spent a long time reading through the old thread and I saw that you were an advocate of this technique and had at least begun to use it extensively. I'm guessing since above you mention it you had a good experience with the language but could you please expand a bit more on what you did over a certain timeframe and your level of progression. Please note, I am not cynical in any way - I would just like to know if it is something I could feasibly do. Outside of L-R, I would do MT (both courses - not the vocab courses though) and then start assimil (maybe with some crossover if you like). As I start assimil I would begin to watch TV online in the target language (dvd's too if I could afford them or knew where to get them for free). People here seem such champions of assimil although there are many people here too who like FSI. Having looked at FSI it is not something I could stomach, regardless of the results. I hope to learn languages for practical reasons but the journey has to be fun. The same could be said for pimsleur as it is boring. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6910 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 8 of 59 11 June 2010 at 1:34am | IP Logged | ||
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I have dabbled a bit with L-R, not really from scratch though. It has felt most beneficial in Spanish, but I already have some experience in that language. I think that some of the explanations why people are skeptical to the method is that:
1 they don't think it's possible 2 they don't want to spend a lot of time (especially not on the same activity) Not that ~50 (even 120) hours is "a lot of time"... Even if the method guaranteed "native fluency" after, say, a couple of hundred hours, I'm pretty sure that nobody but the most avid polyglots would even try. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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