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| Sandman Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5416 days ago 168 posts - 389 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Japanese | Message 9 of 89 23 June 2010 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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What's the theory behind these marathon sessions?
I'm not really getting why doing an 8 hour session during a single day would cause more improvement than doing two 4 hour sessions over two days. Or why four 2 hour days wouldn't be more efficient than either of them. Are there no diminishing marginal returns that kick in? Is giving the brain a night of rest not helpful? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6447 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 10 of 89 23 June 2010 at 8:38pm | IP Logged | ||
In response to descriptions of L-R sessions:
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6447 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 11 of 89 23 June 2010 at 8:46pm | IP Logged | ||
Forgetting curves, plus observation. Giving the brain a night's rest is essential; working intensively while awake is also very helpful. 6 hours in one day is much more useful than 3 hours in two days, in my experience. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6478 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 12 of 89 23 June 2010 at 8:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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I believe the issue is that you're not formally studying vocabulary, nor using specially-
prepared texts, so you'll probably only encounter the same word a second time half an hour later, and then next hour or so... essentially, if you don't do long sessions, there are too many words that are half-learned and that you'll forget before the next day's session. If you do long sessions, they have time to solidify before you go to sleep. Edited by Sprachprofi on 23 June 2010 at 8:55pm 8 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6365 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 13 of 89 23 June 2010 at 9:32pm | IP Logged | ||
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I've had very good results doing Russian LR for no more than 2 hours a day. The magic of letting the brain automatically create grammar structures, improve understanding and sorting out words boundaries definitely works in low-intensive LR. At least it did for me.
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| Journeyer Triglot Senior Member United States tristan85.blogspot.c Joined 6876 days ago 946 posts - 1110 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, German Studies: Sign Language | Message 14 of 89 23 June 2010 at 11:22pm | IP Logged | ||
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Try what you can and see how it works since you have nothing to lose. Probably it won't work for you exactly as prescribed. That's when you get to hone it to your own needs, or reject it entirely if you need.
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| Sandman Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5416 days ago 168 posts - 389 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Japanese | Message 15 of 89 24 June 2010 at 6:33am | IP Logged | ||
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Ah, forgetting curves ...
That's a very good point. I just recently started L-R'ing some Spanish to see if it'd help boost my listening skills a bit. Since my vocabulary is already sufficient, I wasn't using it for learning vocabulary at really so that idea never occurred to me. That leads me to thinking that the required intensity really depends on your current vocabulary/grammar levels. If they're low, then you'll want high intensity to get the frequent repetition, but if one's vocabulary/grammar is already a bit developed and you're using L-R more for the "Listening" help than the "Reading" help, then lower intensity levels may be sufficient. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| RedBeard Senior Member United States atariage.com Joined 6110 days ago 126 posts - 182 votes Speaks: Ancient Greek* Studies: French, German | Message 16 of 89 24 June 2010 at 6:39am | IP Logged | ||
I agree with this sentiment to a large degree. However, I think that one should have a set of rules to start with. For example, three swim instructors tell you that there is a system and promise results by the end of summer if you follow the system. Then the fourth instructor says, "Oh, I just toss you in the pool and we decide what 'feels' right to you." So if LRing multiple hours at a time is the starting point, so be it. Obviously the more people who try it the more data we will have. I know I'm considering it, but just haven't cemented my decision yet. Edit: As an aside, is this LR Method "out there" in language learning circles generally? I don't surf around The Scene except right here at how-to-learn-any-language.com so this is the only place I have seen it, personally. Edited by RedBeard on 24 June 2010 at 6:45am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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