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Haukilahti Triglot Groupie Finland Joined 4965 days ago 94 posts - 126 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Polish
| Message 81 of 128 12 September 2011 at 11:25am | IP Logged |
LanguageSponge wrote:
Viola, j'ai une question pour toi - Quand tu parles en italien avec tes
grand-parents, est-ce que tu dis "Ciao" ou "salve"? Je dis toujours "salve" à ma
"nonna", je n'ai presque jamais dit "ciao" ou quelque chose comme ça, bien que je ne
dise jamais "salve" à mon père. Mon "fratellastro" trouve vraiment drôle quand je dis
"salve" - et ça me fait sourire :] |
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Salve non e' il saluto piu' popolare in Italia, anzi. Io lo uso quasi sempre, non so se per distinguermi dagli altri o semplicemente perche' usare sempre ciao o buon giorno alla fine annoia.
Salve ha appunto la caratteristica di andare bene sia in un contesto formale che informale. Puoi usarlo sia a un meeting di lavoro, sia con i tuoi amici. L'unica eccezione sono proprio i nonni o zii - in questo caso salve mi suona male. Meglio o ciao nonna! oppure anche buon giorno (buona sera), nonna.
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| Jinx Triglot Senior Member Germany reverbnation.co Joined 5694 days ago 1085 posts - 1879 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Catalan, Dutch, Esperanto, Croatian, Serbian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Italian, Spanish, Yiddish
| Message 82 of 128 12 September 2011 at 8:58pm | IP Logged |
Wow, Jack, I'm amazed at how hard you've been working on your languages! I really need to start putting in some more hours myself... since I got to Germany I've been too nervous to work on any of my other languages, in case one of my (German-speaking) flatmates comes to the door to ask me something while I'm studying, and I completely forget how to answer in German. :)
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| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5767 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian
| Message 83 of 128 14 September 2011 at 11:25am | IP Logged |
Thanks Jinx - I've been able to study a lot at the moment while I'm waiting for some
courses to start which I've applied for :]
Milestone: I had the first dream that I can remember in French last night.
Evidently I am doing something right!
Haukilahti wrote:
Salve non e' il saluto piu' popolare in Italia, anzi. Io lo uso
quasi sempre, non so se per distinguermi dagli altri o semplicemente perche' usare
sempre ciao o buon giorno alla fine annoia.
Salve ha appunto la caratteristica di andare bene sia in un contesto formale che
informale. Puoi usarlo sia a un meeting di lavoro, sia con i tuoi amici. L'unica
eccezione sono proprio i nonni o zii - in questo caso salve mi suona male. Meglio o
ciao nonna! oppure anche buon giorno (buona sera), nonna, |
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Ciao Haukilahti. Grazie per la spiegazione. I miei parenti non mi correggono mai quindi
prendo spesso brutte abitudini. Un collega di mio padre mi ha detto che dice "salve"
quando parla con gli anziani.
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12th September - 3 hours French. Two hours listening to the radio and 1 hour reading
Astérix.
13th - 2 hours French watching the TV. One hour German listening to the news on ZDF.
Edit - Also organised a flat for my girlfriend in Austria. She wasn't having much luck
dealing with people - she's nervous - so I made a few phone calls and got her what she
needed.
Today I'll go over my French grammar book and see if I can find any gaping holes in my
grasp of French. French is really coming together for me now, finally after so many
years, as my milestone today proves, and I refuse to lose my handle on it. I'll also
speak French with my girlfriend when she gets here in a few hours and will probably
help her with her German before she goes off to Austria in just over a week now.
Jack
Edited by LanguageSponge on 14 September 2011 at 12:00pm
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| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5767 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian
| Message 84 of 128 15 September 2011 at 11:47pm | IP Logged |
Had a good day language-wise yesterday. Did all the hours I said I would and was able
to have a half an hour conversation with my girlfriend in French. It is difficult for
us to speak anything but English and German to each other so half an hour of French was
quite a lot for us. I'm not sure how many people actually read this, but I imagine that
a lot of you will be thinking that only speaking half an hour of French with a native
speaking French girlfriend is a real waste. It is a shame, yes, and that's something I
very much regret. We have promised to make more trips to Belgium and France to
compensate though - my default language with her family is French, and although her
cousins and half-brother are learning English, it will be a while before they can
converse to any meaningful degree, as they find languages a challenge.
Today we went to London, to Foyles (big bookshop with Grant and Cutler now inside,
which is a language bookshop) and to Camden Market. I bought some more Astérix books
and will read one of those now before I go to bed, and was able to buy a few bits and
pieces in Camden Market using Italian, which was a big confidence booster for me. We
were also flanked by very rude German and French speakers while paying for a few
things. I wanted to say something but I'm not one to start arguments!
Tomorrow I'm on my own other than a few hours work in the morning so I'll get a fair
bit of studying done. French will be the priority as Belgium will be on the cards again
pretty soon - does anyone know how to do that graph that some people have counting the
amount of hours they've done? I'm really bad at working things out for myself on a
computer so hopefully someone can explain in layman terms? Thanks.
Jack
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| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5767 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian
| Message 85 of 128 18 September 2011 at 8:45pm | IP Logged |
Pendant les derniers jours je n'avais pas beaucoup de temps pour mes langues parce que ma
petite amie est chez moi. On parle souvent des langues et joue "word association" mais
j'ai peu de temps pour étudier mes langues en ce moment. Aujourd'hui ma petite amie m'a
lu un conte de fées en allemand et je lui ai lu une bande de la série "Astérix et
Obélix". Mais en ce qui concerne les langues, je n'ai pas beaucoup étudié. Peut-être
qu'on va parler un peu en français ou en allemand mais pour nous ça a l'air un peu trop
bizarre.
Jack
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| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5767 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian
| Message 86 of 128 21 September 2011 at 7:14pm | IP Logged |
Aujourd'hui je n'avais pas beaucoup de temps pour étudier mes langues parce que j'ai dû
rédiger mon CV de nouveau. Cela a pris beaucoup de temps parce que j'ai eu des
difficultés à retrouver des dates importantes et des choses comme ça. Mon contrat de
travail prendra bientôt fin alors je dois chercher autre chose.
Ce soir je vais lire une bande d'Astérix et Obélix. J'ai l'intention aussi de
recommencer à utiliser les listes de mots. La mère de ma petite amie a suggéré que
j'aille avec eux en Belgique à Noёl. Même si je suis allé bien des fois en Belgique, je
deviens inévitablement nerveux avant de partir. Alors je vais étudier autant que
possible pour profiter le plus possible du séjour.
Heute Abend werde ich anfangen, meinen deutschen Wortschatz zu erweitern. Es fällt mir
ziemlich einfach, neue Wörter zu lernen, wenn ich mich darauf konzentriere. Ich werde
sie auch zu Anki hinzufügen.
Jack
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| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5767 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian
| Message 87 of 128 28 September 2011 at 11:28am | IP Logged |
Okay, so over the last week, a lot more has happened.
French - I've been reading and listening to French every day. By the time the next TAC
starts, I will have learnt how to tally up all my hours using these graphs, but since
my technical ability with computers is about as advanced as my grandmother's, I haven't
worked out how to do that yet. Shame on me. Help, anyone? Somehow just writing out the
amount of hours I've done doesn't quite look or feel as impressive as seeing it in a
graph. I've done three hours of reading every day. My girlfriend left for Austria on
the Monday just gone, and before leaving, she gave me lots of BDs (bandes désinées) -
to the point that I needed my brother to bring his car to come and pick me up from her
house, I couldn't carry it all half way across London home. They consisted of various
editions from Astérix (I took all of the editions she had left in the house, so nearly
have them all now), Lucky Luke (which is a Belgian comic series, in French, set in the
American West), and another Belgian comic series called Le Chat. Le Chat is a bit
bizarre - Le Chat is an adult, human-sized, anthropomorphic cat who often comes up with
elaborate reasonings which lead to hilarious, sometimes downright odd, conclusions -
for example by taking metaphors literally or stuff like that. It has taken me a bit of
time to get used to, but it is quite funny.
Also I've had more dreams in French. They are oftentimes variations on the first dream
I had which I acknowledged in my last post, but I think it still counts. It always
starts in the same place (in my girlfriend's grandmother's flat in Brussels) and just
develops from there. I've had two dreams recently which don't have anything to do with
Brussels; they took place in a pub in Nottingham, back with my group of uni friends who
all spoke French to each other. They're just bizarre - the dreams, I mean.
German - funnily enough, not a lot is going on here. I never thought I'd say that,
either. I should really start getting this going again.
In other news, I am finding it difficult to find a full-time job to replace the
temporary one which has just finished. I am considering doing CELTA, as many of my
family have done, and going somewhere to teach English. Tonight I am going to speak to
my aunt in Wales (and in Welsh =]) about her experiences when she taught English in
Japan. I would not even consider going to a country without at least knowing some of
the language first - I've looked on a site advertising placements for teaching English
and all the ones in western Europe want teaching experience - of which I, formally,
have none. So my only option for now will be to go to one of the countries that ask for
CELTA or equivalent but not necessarily any teaching experience. The countries I've
found that are offering positions are Japan, Korea, Vietnam, China, Indonesia, a couple
in India. So I'm going to spend a little while looking at other options, probably do
CELTA as it's a good thing to have anyway, and go off somewhere. I am looking forward
to it, but I am nervous as I can't help thinking I'm going into it relatively blind.
Saying that, my friend has done exactly the same thing, is now in Slovakia and loves
it.
Thanks for reading,
Jack
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| ummagumma Senior Member IrelandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5257 days ago 217 posts - 241 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German
| Message 88 of 128 28 September 2011 at 11:40am | IP Logged |
Best of luck Jack planning for the future. I have no experience in teaching so can offer
you no specific advise other than to go with your gut feeling when you narrowing your
search down. As in, listen to you inner voice as this is probably what you really want
anyway. It's an important decision you are about to make ... and make sure you make it.
I'm curious now how this plays out for you. Best of luck and please get going on German
again!
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