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 Message 121 of 128
03 December 2011 at 1:08pm | IP Logged 
Haven't had a lot of time for actual studying over the last week or so. I'm in the
process of going through French vocabulary, topic by topic, and filling in gaps. Thanks
to the school system, which drummed certain topics into me (family, friends, holidays,
the environment, immigration, health etc), I can quite comfortably talk about pretty
complicated issues, but if I need to talk about day-to-day issues I sometimes get lost.
I've had a few shopping trips in the last week during which I've thought "damn, how do
you say X, Y, Z" - usually food, spices or some kind of seasoning - "in German?" I have
only really got into cooking in the last few months so before then, being able to talk
about food wasn't important to me beside the basics.

Anyway, we're into December and the new TAC will be starting soon. I'll be carrying on
with French and German and will hopefully be adding another one. Whether I want to add
one that I already know and want to improve (Italian, Spanish?) or want to add a brand
new one, I'm not sure. I have been promising myself for ages that I'll learn Dutch, as
I'll get a lot for free, but there are also many others I could go for. Hmm, choices.

Jack
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Jinx
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 Message 122 of 128
04 December 2011 at 12:55pm | IP Logged 
Jack, I so know what you mean about the types of food – that's been exactly my problem recently, as I make new German friends and try to cook with them. Not only do I not know the names of spices, herbs, and berries (German for "cranberry"? Moosbeere? Preiselbeere? Kranichbeere?), but I also don't know the names for cooking equipment in the kitchen, and I'm unaccustomed to the measurements they use here too. All of these things together basically turn me into a complete idiot in the kitchen... which I suppose isn't helped by the fact that I was never that much of a "kitchen goddess" in the first place. ;)
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 Message 123 of 128
04 December 2011 at 1:28pm | IP Logged 
Jinx wrote:
Jack, I so know what you mean about the types of food – that's been exactly my problem recently, as I make new German friends and try to cook with them. Not only do I not know the names of spices, herbs, and berries (German for "cranberry"? Moosbeere? Preiselbeere? Kranichbeere?), but I also don't know the names for cooking equipment in the kitchen, and I'm unaccustomed to the measurements they use here too. All of these things together basically turn me into a complete idiot in the kitchen... which I suppose isn't helped by the fact that I was never that much of a "kitchen goddess" in the first place. ;)


DE: Ich habe das Kochen erst mit 40 Jahren gelernt, daher kann es bei dir noch nicht zu spät sein :). Ich empfehle dir, dich alleine mit einem deutschen Rezept zu beschäftigen und die deutschen Vokabeln herauszusuchen. Das am besten, bevor ihr zusammen kocht. Ich benutzte meistens ausländische Rezepte, die ich immer vor dem Kochen sorgfältig durcharbeite.

cranberries = Preiselbeeren (= kleine schwarz-violette Beeren)

Fasulye



Edited by Fasulye on 04 December 2011 at 1:29pm

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 Message 124 of 128
04 December 2011 at 6:05pm | IP Logged 
Jinx wrote:
Jack, I so know what you mean about the types of food – that's been
exactly my problem recently, as I make new German friends and try to cook with them.
Not only do I not know the names of spices, herbs, and berries (German for "cranberry"?
Moosbeere? Preiselbeere? Kranichbeere?), but I also don't know the names for cooking
equipment in the kitchen, and I'm unaccustomed to the measurements they use here too.
All of these things together basically turn me into a complete idiot in the kitchen...
which I suppose isn't helped by the fact that I was never that much of a "kitchen
goddess" in the first place. ;)


I'm not that great in the kitchen myself, but that doesn't mean I don't like trying. I
tend to use simple marinades quite a lot - because when they work, they taste great,
and that covers up the fact that I don't really know what I'm doing.

I've taken to keeping my phone on me when I go out of the house now so that when I come
across a word I don't know, I can write it down to look up later. The first couple of
trips to the supermarket, I spent about double the time I would normally have done
writing down the names of berries, herbs and spices to look up later. Food really is
one of my very weakest areas in all of my languages. Being in the country of your
target language really does throw what you don't know into quite sharp relief. But I
find that every time I make a trip to Germany, or to Austria in this case, I need to
look up much less - and I've been here over a month now.

One thing I do find myself doing is questioning the very basics. Not because I don't
know how to express it - I could say most things I needed to in several ways - but I am
worried about is not sounding natural - that is, sounding foreign in my expression even
though I'm speaking German. So, it was only a few years ago that I realised that to ask
for the bill in a restaurant or cafe or so, a simple "Bezahlen bitte" does just fine,
without using any of the complicated phrasing we'd use in English. To my English ear,
this sounds quite abrupt and rude. But being in the country gets rid of these kinds of
doubts pretty quickly :]

One of my main priorities for December is to work out which of the languages on my
hitlist I am going to start in January. I assume we have a 6 Week Challenge in January,
so that will give me loads of motivation for whichever I choose. It'll probably be
either Russian, Dutch or Modern Greek. Greek because I love it, or Dutch because I love
it, it's so close to English and German, which are my strongest languages, and it's one
of the languages of Belgium.

Jack

Edited by LanguageSponge on 07 December 2011 at 8:18am

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 Message 125 of 128
06 December 2011 at 1:26pm | IP Logged 
Today my main focus is to determine which languages I want to focus on during TAC 2012. I
will probably be focusing on three and the candidates are French, German, Dutch, Russian
and Latin. I'll be drawing up tables of reasons for and against each one later on today.
This log will be discontinued once I begin my log for TAC 2012. I prefer a completely
fresh start, so an entirely new log is preferable.

Jack
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 Message 126 of 128
15 December 2011 at 12:16pm | IP Logged 
Hallo Jack

Ich hoffe, dass alles bei dir gut geht. Bist du noch in Österreich oder züruck in
England? Hoffentlich habst du deine österreichische Sprachschwerigkeiten überwunden. Ich
habe irgendwo gelesen, dass du Österreichisches Deutschwörter gelernt müssen hättest.

Pfiat di!
Paul    
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 Message 127 of 128
24 December 2011 at 7:13am | IP Logged 
ummagumma wrote:
Hallo Jack

Ich hoffe, dass alles bei dir gut geht. Bist du noch in Österreich oder züruck in
England? Hoffentlich habst du deine österreichische Sprachschwerigkeiten überwunden.
Ich
habe irgendwo gelesen, dass du Österreichisches Deutschwörter gelernt müssen hättest.

Pfiat di!
Paul    


Grüß di, Paul,

Ich hatte schon auf deine Nachricht geantwortet, aber aus irgendeinem Grund wurde sie
gelöscht. Sie war ziemlich lang, und es hat mich sehr frustriert, dass ich sie nicht
zurückbekommen konnte. So ist das Leben.

In den vergangenen Tagen hatte ich viel weniger Zeit für Deutsch als in den vergangenen
sechs Wochen. Jetzt bin ich zu Hause in England, und daraus folgt, dass ich mich auf
die Weihnachtsferien vorbereiten muss. Für mich dauert das immer eine Ewigkeit, da ich
eine unglaublich große Familie habe, die jetzt getrennt ist, also muss ich überall
fahren, um denjenigen ihre Geschenke zu geben, mit denen ich Weihnachten nicht
verbringe. Meine Mutter braucht viel Hilfe bei allem, weil sie seit 25 Jahren oder so
überhaupt nichts alleine gemacht hat, was Rechnungen und andere langweilige,
komplizierte Sachen betrifft.

In den vergangenen Tagen habe ich viel Astérix gelesen. Das scheint, mir beim
Entspannen zu helfen. Ich lerne immer noch einige neue Wörter, aber, um ehrlich zu
sein, habe ich den Asterix-Bänden bezüglich des Sprachlernens schon lange her
entwachsen. Das heißt, ich genieße es natürlich immer noch, sie zu lesen, wenn ich mir
einige Zeit dafür gönnen kann, aber es gibt vieles, was ich lesen könnte, das mir
besser beim Sprachlernen helfen würde. Im nächsten TAC wird es für mich ein Ziel sein,
mich auf Asterix ein wenig zu verzichten und kompliziertere Sachen zu finden. Danke
schön, dass du meinem Log gefolgt hast; deine Kommentaren und Beiträge haben mir sehr
geholfen.

Danke vielmals und bis denn,

Jack

Edited by LanguageSponge on 24 December 2011 at 8:42am

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Jinx
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 Message 128 of 128
25 December 2011 at 11:28pm | IP Logged 
Ich freue mich auf dein neues Log, Jack. Frohe Weihnachten und guten Rutsch ins neue Jahr!

Fasulye wrote:
Jinx wrote:
Jack, I so know what you mean about the types of food – that's been exactly my problem recently, as I make new German friends and try to cook with them. Not only do I not know the names of spices, herbs, and berries (German for "cranberry"? Moosbeere? Preiselbeere? Kranichbeere?), but I also don't know the names for cooking equipment in the kitchen, and I'm unaccustomed to the measurements they use here too. All of these things together basically turn me into a complete idiot in the kitchen... which I suppose isn't helped by the fact that I was never that much of a "kitchen goddess" in the first place. ;)


DE: Ich habe das Kochen erst mit 40 Jahren gelernt, daher kann es bei dir noch nicht zu spät sein :). Ich empfehle dir, dich alleine mit einem deutschen Rezept zu beschäftigen und die deutschen Vokabeln herauszusuchen. Das am besten, bevor ihr zusammen kocht. Ich benutzte meistens ausländische Rezepte, die ich immer vor dem Kochen sorgfältig durcharbeite.

cranberries = Preiselbeeren (= kleine schwarz-violette Beeren)

Fasulye



Danke schön, Fasulye! :)


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