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Fasulye
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 Message 25 of 66
08 March 2011 at 6:02am | IP Logged 
Adrean wrote:
I just learned a couple of days ago that I did in fact pass my DALF C1 exam. It was slightly bittersweet because I did not finish with the mark I expected. Especially in regards to the written section where I got 9/25. I kind of expected a mark like this because I did surpass the word limit for the essay and apparently each word over is a mark lost, potentially leaving me with 0 for a section worth 12.5. I have sent an email away to find out if this was the case. Nevertheless I cannot have my result changed. I wrote the below the same day after the exam, so I realized something could go wrong.

Adrean wrote:
-The Essay: I can have some serious problems here, I didn't exactly follow the
guidelines for the question. They requested an article in response to a blog. I went
straight out and make an article as if in a newspaper. I just remembered just now that
I also forgot the Title, duh! I also had too many words so I chopped off a good part of
my conclusion. I still think I have too many words. They say for each word over or
under you lose a mark, potentially giving me a 0 for this section. If they don't mark
me on the word count I think I would have a score of 6-8/12.5


Besides the written section I got 23/25 for written comprehension, a nice surprise indeed. I got 15.50 for the spoken section with the jury and I'm quite pleased with this because I feel this is a weakness. However 15/25 for the listening comprehension has left me a little bedazzled. I really thought I would be getting between 18-22 for this section. I was absolutely sure of everything except for four question worth one mark each. So overall 62.5/100 - I'm a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to my French so I plan to one day resit the exam.

Overall I sat the DELF B1 In february last year and the DALF C1 the same year in December. So I can be pretty pleased with that.


J'envois mes félictations pour le réussite de ton examen C1! Deux examens dans une seule année c'est un bon succes.

Fasulye
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 Message 27 of 66
10 March 2011 at 11:05pm | IP Logged 
Fasulye wrote:
J'envois mes félictations pour le réussite de ton examen C1! Deux examens dans une seule année c'est un bon succes.


Merci infiniment, J'ai mis beaucoup d'efforts et des années pour y arriver. En fait, Je peux vous dire que j'ai mis exactement 4 ans depuis le commencement de mes études sans étudier vraiment une autre langue. Mon rêve maintenant est d'avoir la même niveau en votre langue en(dans?) quatre ans.


Buttons wrote:
I guess this follows the saying "The more you know, the more you realise what you don't know"!

I think your idea of working with certain verbs is a really good idea and I am quite tempted to try the same approach.



Yeh it is still a very tentative process at the moment. I haven't really developped a way to actually turn what I'm learning into knowledge. I think it is a very active process as opposed to how I usually learn which is a passive approach.

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I watched three films the last week including one yesterday. I also squeezed in 2 hours of podcasts as I was communting yesterday. Somehow I feel after all that that it was a wasted day. I guess more of the same 'listening passively', I think I've gotta get of my butt and make my study much more active.

I listened to a bit of teach yourself German conversation course the other day. I also downloaded all the Yabla German videos which are avaiable free on Itunes. They have English/German subtitles running at the same time. I don't understand a thing.....

Edited by Adrean on 10 March 2011 at 11:06pm

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 Message 29 of 66
18 March 2011 at 4:42am | IP Logged 
Buttons wrote:
I know you feel your listening skills in French are pretty damn good already but I'm sure it won't do any harm to keep passively listening and keep this skill top-notch ;0)


Yeh it's almost a guilty pleasure to listen to my favourite podcasts or watch a movie without a pen and a paper. I really want to activate all those words/phrasing I understand but don't use myself.

German

I skipped through some of the earlier lessons of Pimsleur and I'm sitting at lesson 25 now. My base in Michel Thomas has helped to understand the grammar which is not usually explained during Pimsleur lessons. Keeping concentration at 100% is just a little diifcult over 25 minutes but I try to soldier on.

French

I've seen two films this week both very enjoyable. I was lucky enough to stumble upon a 90 minutes documentary about Francois Truffaut last night. It was in French with English subs. It was interesting to learn more about the man behind the films (or in them). I will say tentatively my favourite film ever was Les quatre cents coup(400 blows) which was also his first film.

I love stumbling upon famous celebs who've learned French to a very good level. They are very few and far between, which goes to show how hard learning a second language is. This week I learned about Ellen MacCarthur who speaks very good French with a pretty good accent. She was famous for sailing around the world solo. Celebs in general like to try out their French when on French T.V/Radio, sometimes to not so good effect!

Edited by Adrean on 18 March 2011 at 4:43am

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 Message 30 of 66
20 March 2011 at 5:11pm | IP Logged 
Sounds like you're already making good headway in German, and I'm sure it won't be long before those Yabla videos start to make much more sense. And if it's anything to go by, my concentration usually wanes after 25 minutes as well. Half-hour sessions of Pimsleur and MT aside of course, I find that aiming for 15-20 minute sessions of study with a mini-break in-between seems to work out much better in the long run.

Out of curiosity, I added Truffaut's "Les quatre cents coups" to my rental list on LoveFilm today. I've been far too long without French cinema already and it's time to make humble amends. :)
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 Message 31 of 66
29 March 2011 at 10:48am | IP Logged 
Ca farte?

Teango wrote:
Sounds like you're already making good headway in German, and I'm sure
it won't be long before those Yabla videos start to make much more sense. And if it's
anything to go by, my concentration usually wanes after 25 minutes as well. Half-hour
sessions of Pimsleur and MT aside of course, I find that aiming for 15-20 minute
sessions of study with a mini-break in-between seems to work out much better in the
long run.

Out of curiosity, I added Truffaut's "Les quatre cents coups" to my rental list on
LoveFilm today. I've been far too long without French cinema already and it's time to
make humble amends. :)


I'm in no great hurry to learn German but I'm pretty pleased with my little progress. I
hope those Yabla videos will start to make sense because it seems sooo far away now. I
hope if and when you do watch 'Les quatre cents coup' you can enjoy it, if not, then
let's agree to disagree :-)

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I've been tugged away from language studies this week for several reasons. Principally
because I'm taking wayyyy too seriously my other hobby which is long distance running.
I've made some overambitious target time in a race 2 months away, which means I'm
reading lots of running literature and websites for techniques, training, motivation
etc.etc. As with language learning I'm very reasonable (anal) about making goals and
sticking at them. It can be a little obsessive. I've found now that I've scratched the
surface I'm wanting to know more and more about running. I think running and language
learning are somewhat similar in that you are mostly solitary and you don't need to
rely on other people. I think it's also easy to measure the end performance by either a
race time or let's face it, if you are fluent or not, unlike with something like
photography which is harder to measure and people can make greater claims. But I
digress.

(1)I saw a really great French comedy in the American tradition last night. It could
have been my mood but I really enjoyed 'Brice de Nice'. A story about a surfer in Nice
where there are no waves. If you are familiar with 'Point Break'(90's surfing film with
Keanu Reeves), then you might enjoy even more this film.

(2)I've almost at the end of Cinq Semaines en Ballon by Jules Verne. No surprise that
I'm reading another one of his books, I've practically read them all.

(3)I've listened to looaddss of podcasts. They can't make them quick enough. I get my
news, film reviews, book reviews, science, philosophy, entertainment, general info from
French podcasts. It's not even studying really.

(4)German Pimsleur. Finding it not easy. But enjoying doing my one-a-day nevertheless.

Edited by Adrean on 29 March 2011 at 10:49am

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 Message 32 of 66
29 March 2011 at 2:37pm | IP Logged 
Adrean wrote:
Ca farte?

I've learnt some new French today ("What's up?", "How's it going?" I think). Although at first glance, I must admit, I thought it was Swiss slang for "Qui a pété?". Merci, Adrean. ;)


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