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| Gomorritis Tetraglot Groupie Netherlands Joined 4275 days ago 91 posts - 157 votes  Speaks: Spanish*, English, Catalan, French Studies: Greek, German, Dutch | Message 305 of 355 06 April 2013 at 12:12am | IP Logged | |||||
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Thank you for this software! I've been using it for around a month now and it's been extremely helpful.
It's true that it's much better for certain languages. For example in Greek I have to save the same word in feminine, in neuter, in masculine, in plural, in accusative, in genitive, etc. Also with verbs I have many forms. However in Dutch I just store nouns twice (singular and plural), and same goes for adjectives or verbs... it's much less effort! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| lorinth Tetraglot Senior Member Belgium Joined 4271 days ago 443 posts - 581 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish, Latin Studies: Mandarin, Finnish | Message 306 of 355 09 April 2013 at 9:53am | IP Logged | |||||
I've been using LWT to learn both non-inflected (Chinese) and very very highly inflected languages (Latin and Finnish). Yet I seldom save several different inflected forms of the same word. First, for Finnish and Latin, I use the "romanization" field to indicate the dictionary and other basic forms (ex. for a Latin verb: 1st pers. sing. ind. pres. + past + participle; for Finnish: nominative + other interesting forms if any). Then, when I study, I usually test myself to see if I can recall that basic form from the inflected form in the text. Then, in general, when I see other inflected forms of the same word in other texts, I can recognize them and, bingo, the word is known. No need to add the partitive plural of a noun or the subjunctive pluperfect of a verb. If on the other hand I can't recognize such a form then, and only then, I can add it to the list of terms. In general one, sometimes two, infrequently three forms are enough - those that you actually come across in real texts. No need to add the whole morphological paradigm. In addition, some "possible forms" are very infequent in real texts. Edited by lorinth on 09 April 2013 at 9:57am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| lwtproject Pentaglot Senior Member Netherlands https://learning-wit Joined 4889 days ago 149 posts - 264 votes Speaks: French, Dutch*, German, English, Mandarin Studies: Italian | Message 307 of 355 09 April 2013 at 2:06pm | IP Logged | |||||
If there are many word forms, it's a good idea (as a beginner) to save all of them in LWT. After some time you will just mark new word forms with "Well Known" or "Ignore". 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gomorritis Tetraglot Groupie Netherlands Joined 4275 days ago 91 posts - 157 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, Catalan, French Studies: Greek, German, Dutch | Message 308 of 355 09 April 2013 at 5:08pm | IP Logged | |||||
You are right, and this is what I have been doing so far. Still, with less inflected languages, whenever you first open an easy text, most words already appear with a white background, so you immediately know that you know most words. It's mostly the psychological effect: you are more aware of the progress you are making and makes you feel much better. When I open a text in Greek there are still many words that I do know appear in blue, it somehow depresses me. Then I start noticing I do know many words in blue cause I saw them in other forms and start feeling better again. Or maybe it's just me, hehe. Edited by Gomorritis on 09 April 2013 at 5:11pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Gomorritis Tetraglot Groupie Netherlands Joined 4275 days ago 91 posts - 157 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, Catalan, French Studies: Greek, German, Dutch | Message 309 of 355 23 April 2013 at 7:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
There is a new version of this software.
I don't think I need those features right now, so I won't install it. Unless there is some speed improvement. By the way, what are exactly the advantages of archiving texts? Only saving hard drive space? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| lwtproject Pentaglot Senior Member Netherlands https://learning-wit Joined 4889 days ago 149 posts - 264 votes Speaks: French, Dutch*, German, English, Mandarin Studies: Italian | Message 310 of 355 23 April 2013 at 10:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
About the difference between active texts and archived texts: Active texts They have been parsed and tokenized according to the rules defined for the language. The result is stored in a cache of sentences and text items. They use a lot of space in the database. Reading with term creation/editing and dictionary lookup is possible. Testing of a stored term that occurs in the text, is possible. A terms will be tested within the context of any sentence(s) in all active texts (the number of sentences may be set (1, 2, or 3) as a preference). Archived texts They are not parsed and tokenized, only the text is stored. Compared with active texts, they don't use much space in the database, because no sentences and no text items are stored. Reading with term creation/editing and dictionary lookup is not possible. Testing of a stored term, that occurs in the text, is possible, but a term will be tested ONLY within the context of the sentence(s) that has/have been stored with the term in the sentence field, if the term does not occur in any active text. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Tsopivo Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4468 days ago 258 posts - 411 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Esperanto | Message 311 of 355 24 April 2013 at 6:11am | IP Logged | |||||
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Thank you for this software! I have been looking into language learning websites recently and I have registered on Lingq. I like the idea of a software that is completely free and Opensource though so I am considering switching to LWT instead. Just to be sure to understand, in LWT, each person has to download their own texts and audios right? Or is there some kind of library of content shared by users?
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| lwtproject Pentaglot Senior Member Netherlands https://learning-wit Joined 4889 days ago 149 posts - 264 votes Speaks: French, Dutch*, German, English, Mandarin Studies: Italian | Message 312 of 355 24 April 2013 at 8:13am | IP Logged | |||||
Yes, you are right. There is no "LWT shared library". Within LWT, you can use any text (via Copy and Paste) with or without audio you'll find on the Internet. The LingQ library, which can be accessed easily via a free LingQ account, has excellent meterial, but there are other sources as well... 1 person has voted this message useful |
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