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| antonius_rgp Newbie Australia Joined 6305 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: Indonesian* | Message 25 of 33 21 August 2007 at 10:24am | IP Logged | ||
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ctan,
Bahasa Melayu (Malaysia) and Bahasa Indonesia do overlap at some points as both language evolve from the same 'family' of language. It is not surprising that you can't understand anything that your Indonesia friends said in Indonesian (the same goes with me when I went to Malaysia a few years ago). Although, our countries lie side by side geographically, both languages evolve distinctively. Foreign languages influences also play a great role. Bahasa Malaysia can be said to be more influenced by English language meanwhile, Bahasa Indonesia influenced more by the Dutch Language. Hence, the differences in 'loan' words for both languages separate the two languages even further. So I do not agree with you when, you said that Bahasa Malaysia is the formal and very stiff version of Indonesian. Cheers. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| ctan Diglot Newbie Malaysia Joined 6357 days ago 3 posts - 3 votes Speaks: English*, Malay Studies: Mandarin, German | Message 26 of 33 22 August 2007 at 9:29am | IP Logged | ||
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While Bahasa Indonesia and Bahasa Melayu differ in some vocabulary, it seems more like a regional and colonial influence over time? I'm certainly no expert in Bahasa Indonesia, and I certainly don't know anything about colloqial Bahasa Indonesia, but the written (offical/formal) form is perfectly understandable to me.
Not sure who wrote this wiki but it states that "Indonesian is a normative form of the Malay language" and that "Indonesian is a standardised dialect of the Malay language that was officially defined with the declaration of Indonesia's independence in 1945" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_language I am not able to understand spoken Bahasa Indonesia due to the different regional accents and modern slang.... same goes to Malay, I only understand bahasa baku pronounciation, like with the newsreadings! - but not if it's spoken by my friends (I grew up speaking English, but studied and wrote all my exams in Malay). Bahasa indonesia in its written form (e.g. Antara News http://www.antara.co.id/) is really very similar to Malay, apart from some differences in words and spelling (but it's easy to guess). I think learning and grasping either one of the languages, will allow one to read and understand both of them. But it's just my personal opinion based on my currently very rusty Malay. :p 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| manny Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6358 days ago 248 posts - 240 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Tagalog Studies: French, German | Message 27 of 33 22 August 2007 at 10:57am | IP Logged | ||
Now that's interesting. Especially since the Philippine language-dialects (related Malay language group) use many Spanish loan words. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| John Smith Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6042 days ago 396 posts - 542 votes Speaks: English*, Czech*, Spanish Studies: German | Message 28 of 33 19 September 2008 at 7:50pm | IP Logged | ||
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Here in Australia Indonesian is taught widely in primary school and high school. I'd give it three cacti. Sure, it might appear easy but it doesn't share many cognates with English and it does have features that make it harder than French (two cacti) and German.
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| sayariza Triglot Groupie Indonesia Joined 6763 days ago 42 posts - 54 votes Speaks: Malay, Indonesian*, DutchC1 Studies: EnglishC2 | Message 29 of 33 30 January 2009 at 9:26am | IP Logged | ||
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DHARMASISWA PROGRAM OF THE REPUBLIC OF INDONESIA
ACADEMIC YEAR 2009/2010 Darmasiswa Program of the Republic of Indonesia is a non-degree scholarship program offered by the Indonesian government for foreign students to study Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian language), Indonesian music, Indonesian culture, traditional dance and craft in 45 Indonesian higher learning institutions. Dharmasiswa program is divided into 2 (three) programs, namely: 1. Dharmasiswa RI - Regular Regular program is a one year scholarship program offered to foreign students to study Indonesian language, traditional music, traditional dance and craft. 2. Dharmasiswa RI - Short Course Short Course program is a six months scholarship program offered to foreign students to study Indonesian language. Programs of Study - Indonesian language - Arts and Culture - Music and Traditional Music - Gamelan (Javanese Musical Orchestra) - Ethnic Music Study - Shadow Puppetry (Wayang) - Dance and Traditional Dance - Handicrafts - Culinary - Painting - Art of Making Batik (Batik Textile Design) - Photography Qualifications of Participants The applicants for the DARMASISWA Scholarship of the Republic of Indonesia should meet the following qualifications: - Not more than 35 years of age; - Have completed Secondary Education (High School) or its equivalent; - Be able to communicate in English and be available to assist the university where participants studying to teach English or other foreign languages; - Have good health as evidenced by a Medical Certificate or Letter duly signed by a doctor from their countries of residence; The Scholarship Covers - Tuition fee; - Monthly cost of living allowance of Rp 1.500.000 (one million five hundred thousands rupiah) equivalent to about USD 140 - Once off clothing allowance of Rp 300.000 (three hundred thousands rupiah) equivalent to about USD 25 Timetable - Selection of documents: Beginning of April 2009 - Announcement of the selection: Beginning of May 2009 - Confirmation by the selected participants: Beginning of June 2009 - Orientation Program: Beginning of September 2009 - Academic program: September 2009 to July 201 INFORMATION For more information the applicants can contact the Indonesian embassy. Edited by sayariza on 30 January 2009 at 9:27am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| formiko Nonaglot Senior Member United States Joined 6211 days ago 848 posts - 855 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Esperanto, Indonesian, Yoruba, Cherokee, Russian, German, French Studies: Mandarin, Ancient Greek | Message 31 of 33 19 February 2009 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | ||
You still have to learn vocabulary, which is not as easy as an Indo-European language... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| manthono Newbie Indonesia agoestbkl.multiply.cRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5725 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes | Message 32 of 33 23 March 2009 at 7:19am | IP Logged | ||
Hi, are you still learning indonesian? I'm from Indonesia, and ready to help you. I'm improving my English. I teach English in a junior high school, in indonesia. i mean, i teach a very basic English skill. Feel free to contact me. Don't worry, I would't charge you any buck :-) facebook: manthono agus YM: agoesmanthono Nice to see you 1 person has voted this message useful |
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