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| rapp Senior Member United States Joined 5732 days ago 129 posts - 204 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Spanish | Message 41 of 68 10 February 2012 at 5:50pm | IP Logged | |||||
No, no glottal stop - just the opposite actually. In the sentence "He saw water everywhere", would you add any Rs? I hope not, or this will be a bad example. But, if you run the words saw and water together so there is no break between them, you've got something pretty close to how I would pronounce your sentence. "Hee sahwah kahr". 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| PillowRock Groupie United States Joined 4735 days ago 87 posts - 151 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 42 of 68 10 February 2012 at 9:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
I don't think so. I've heard the American accent that was described before. The vowel rotation in the verb "can" stays whether the word is stressed or not. To my ear, it's not quite "ken" (like the name), nor quite "kin" (like "kith and ..."). However, it is closer to both of those than to either "can" (like the metal container, which even in that accent keeps the "trap" short A) or "khn" (with a rushed "uh"). If you think of "can" and "can't" as a word pair, this seems a bit like it is the exact mirror image of the vowel rotation done by the British. It shifts the vowel sound of the opposite word in the opposite direction (though I know that last phrase is horribly imprecise).
I had never consciously realized that the ware any accents or dialects of English where the 5 words on the right hand side of that all rhymed with each other. To me (an American from Michigan): "Straw" and "law" rhyme, but don't rhyme with any of the other three. "Sore" and "soar" sound the same, but don't rhyme with any of the other three. "Poor" doesn't rhyme with any of them. However, "pore" and "pour" do rhyme with "sore" and "soar". The "oo" in "poor" is closer to the one in "woo". Edited by PillowRock on 10 February 2012 at 10:10pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| PillowRock Groupie United States Joined 4735 days ago 87 posts - 151 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 43 of 68 10 February 2012 at 9:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
Relative to the US, that particular thing seems like a mixture of a couple different American accents. Dropping the R to change "car" into "kaah" sounds like a Boston / New England thing. Adding an R to turn "saw" into "sor" (or, as I recall seeing in one stand-up comedy routine: "wash" into "warsh") is more of a Texas thing. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| rapp Senior Member United States Joined 5732 days ago 129 posts - 204 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Esperanto, Spanish | Message 44 of 68 10 February 2012 at 9:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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"Warsh" is definitely a Southern/Texan thing. Not everyone down here says it that way, by any means, but there is a Southern accent in which it is pronounced that way.
And I had a friend tell me once that, when growing up in NYC, she was taught in school that "saw" and "sore" were pronounced the same. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| PillowRock Groupie United States Joined 4735 days ago 87 posts - 151 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 45 of 68 10 February 2012 at 10:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
As a Midwesterner, that just seems odd to me, especially being formally taught as opposed to just picking up a local accent. So which direction were they moving things? Taking the R out of "sore", or adding an R to "saw"? Edited by PillowRock on 10 February 2012 at 10:15pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 46 of 68 10 February 2012 at 10:43pm | IP Logged | |||||
That's most definitely UK pronunciation :) In America, straw rhymes with law, but not even close to poor, sore, or soar (which all rhyme with each other). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 47 of 68 10 February 2012 at 10:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
That accent! Michigan? Do you pronounce "sorry" as "sah-ree" or "sore-ee"? I can't remember if that's the same accent or not. I should clarify my previous post. In Standard American English, poor rhymes with sore. Both have a long "O" sound. PillowRock, do you pronounce "roof" as rüf? (like the "u" in "put". I know it's not really a ü but I don't know how else to write it)? I remember when I was in first grade, in art class we were making houses out of clay, and the teacher was showing us how to make the roof, but she was pronouncing it with the "u" in "put," and me being 6 or 7 or however old you are in first grade, didn't know what word she was saying. So I raised my hand and asked "what part of the house is the rüf?" She looked at me like I was silly and said the top of the house. I was like "oh... you mean the roof!" I don't remember if she thought it was funny or if she got pissed off, but looking back on it, it was definitely funny. I'd never heard anyone say rüf before in my life so how was I supposed to know what it meant! I was like 7 years old. Edited by IronFist on 10 February 2012 at 10:55pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| IronFist Senior Member United States Joined 6438 days ago 663 posts - 941 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 48 of 68 10 February 2012 at 10:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
Just like it's spelled: He. Saw (no R). A. Car (with the R). In normal speech it would sound like: "He saw uh car." In fast speech the "a" might not even be pronounced and just glossed over instead: "He saww (uh) car" It's almost as if when your mouth is moving from the "aww" in "saw" to the "c" in car, it passes over the "uh" shape so it's very subtle. Unless, of course, you're emphasizing that it was a car you saw (as opposed to the car or whatever). Edited by IronFist on 10 February 2012 at 10:54pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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