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Northernlights
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 Message 57 of 68
11 February 2012 at 11:57am | IP Logged 
IronFist wrote:
PillowRock wrote:
He actually wrote (and periodically performs) a song entirely about the idea that "Marry, Merry, and Mary Are Three Different Words". In Michigan they all sound identical.


I would pronounce all 3 of those words the same way, too.



I'd pronounce each one differently. In "marry" I'd open my mouth with my jaw going downwards, then in "merry" my mouth would open sideways like in a smile, and "Mary" has got a longer vowel, you sort of hover over the A plus it's a different sound to the one in marry and merry, more similar to merry, just longer.
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 Message 58 of 68
11 February 2012 at 6:57pm | IP Logged 
Northernlights wrote:
IronFist wrote:
PillowRock wrote:
He actually wrote (and periodically performs) a song entirely about the idea that "Marry, Merry, and Mary Are Three Different Words". In Michigan they all sound identical.


I would pronounce all 3 of those words the same way, too.



I'd pronounce each one differently. In "marry" I'd open my mouth with my jaw going downwards, then in "merry" my mouth would open sideways like in a smile, and "Mary" has got a longer vowel, you sort of hover over the A plus it's a different sound to the one in marry and merry, more similar to merry, just longer.


Can you upload a recording of yourself saying "Mary wants to marry the merry gentleman" or something like that?
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Northernlights
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 Message 59 of 68
11 February 2012 at 7:43pm | IP Logged 
IronFist wrote:


Can you upload a recording of yourself saying "Mary wants to marry the merry gentleman" or something like that?


Your wish is my command lol

I can't find any way of providing a direct link here other than pasting the whole URL:

http://www.youmicro.com/listen/song/5093/marry-merry-mary-sp oken-by-northernlights
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anjathilina
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 Message 60 of 68
11 February 2012 at 10:13pm | IP Logged 
Northernlights wrote:
IronFist wrote:


Can you upload a recording of yourself saying "Mary wants to marry the merry gentleman"
or something like that?


Your wish is my command lol

I can't find any way of providing a direct link here other than pasting the whole URL:

http://www.youmicro.com/listen/song/5093/marry-merry-mary-sp oken-by-
northernlights


That was great! :) Thanks for doing that!

The first I ever heard of those three words being spoken differently was when I took
theatre classes in college. They taught us a stage dialect called "Standard American"
which to my Western US ears sounded vaguely British. And marry-merry-mary were
pronounced just as you did, which took me a while to get just right. I found it great
fun. I grew up in Alaska, by the way. But I don't sound like Sarah Palin; I have no
idea why she talks that way.
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IronFist
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 Message 61 of 68
11 February 2012 at 10:57pm | IP Logged 
Northernlights wrote:
IronFist wrote:


Can you upload a recording of yourself saying "Mary wants to marry the merry gentleman" or something like that?


Your wish is my command lol

I can't find any way of providing a direct link here other than pasting the whole URL:

http://www.youmicro.com/listen/song/5093/marry-merry-mary-sp oken-by-northernlights


Omg that was awesome!!!

edit - I just found a microphone.

Stand by.

Edited by IronFist on 11 February 2012 at 11:09pm
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IronFist
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 Message 62 of 68
11 February 2012 at 11:20pm | IP Logged 
Here you go:

http://www.youmicro.com/listen/song/5094/mary-wants-to-marry -the-merry-gentleman
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Northernlights
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 Message 63 of 68
12 February 2012 at 2:05pm | IP Logged 
anjathilina wrote:
Northernlights wrote:
IronFist wrote:


Can you upload a recording of yourself saying "Mary wants to marry the merry gentleman"
or something like that?


Your wish is my command lol

I can't find any way of providing a direct link here other than pasting the whole URL:

http://www.youmicro.com/listen/song/5093/marry-merry-mary-sp oken-by-
northernlights


That was great! :) Thanks for doing that!

The first I ever heard of those three words being spoken differently was when I took
theatre classes in college. They taught us a stage dialect called "Standard American"
which to my Western US ears sounded vaguely British. And marry-merry-mary were
pronounced just as you did, which took me a while to get just right. I found it great
fun. I grew up in Alaska, by the way. But I don't sound like Sarah Palin; I have no
idea why she talks that way.


Thanks and you're welcome! That's interesting about the stage dialect differentiating things that most Americans wouldn't. When people in Britain pretend to speak in a pedantic way they overemphasise the "Hawe" sound in words like "who" because normally the W is silent, so it'd be "Hoo". Did the stage dialect do that?
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Northernlights
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 Message 64 of 68
12 February 2012 at 2:16pm | IP Logged 
@ PillowRock

Sorry I must have missed this before.

PillowRock wrote:

Northernlights wrote:

LMAO this is such a laugh :-) There are so many versions and what's odd about that roof thing is that it sounds just like the difference between English from England versus Scotland. We say "roof" with a long ooooh but the Scots say "Rruf" with a rolled R then a really short U.

Well, so far as I've noticed, none of the American accents have the rolled R of a Scot.
Do you mean a "long ooooh" like in "whole" or "goal"? From what I've noticed about "roof" the continuum of pronunciations in the US is more or less from almost a long U to a short "uh"; basically the "oo" in "roof" slides (according to region, mostly) along the axis from "tool" to "wood". I say "roof" with a more "wood"-or-"put"-ish pronunciation.




Yes that's what I was referring to, the long "ooo", but for me "roof" doesn't rhyme with "whole" or "goal" although those two words do rhyme with each other. Your description of saying "roof" more like "put" or "wood" sounds like a shorter vowel, sort of what I associate with Scottish people. OMG this is complicated and I guess the best thing is to make a recording.


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