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| sofiapofia Pentaglot Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4942 days ago 88 posts - 103 votes  Speaks: Swedish, Hindi, Portuguese, English*, Marathi Studies: German, Danish, Sanskrit, Icelandic | Message 57 of 76 03 June 2012 at 10:25am | IP Logged | ||
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Hello there! I started this thread and although I didn't read the book we chose to read
on this forum (I hate reading things on my computer) I have been reading in German. I read a couple of short stories by Henrich Böll and this book: http://ia600206.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/10/items/olc overs317/olcovers317- L.zip&file=3173061-L.jpg I am reading two books right now: Die Verlorene Ehre der Katharina Blum by Henrich Böll Briefe an einen jungen Dichter by Rainer Maria Rilke I've just started them and if anyone plans to read them or has read them, let me know! 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| frenkeld Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6944 days ago 2042 posts - 2719 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German | Message 58 of 76 08 June 2012 at 10:40pm | IP Logged | ||
One reason I felt the first attempt had fizzled was because it wasn't clear how much of the plot could be divulged in a discussion at any given point. One would probably do well to come up with and post a schedule of when individual chapters become open for a free discussion without the fear of it becoming a spoiler. Those behind on a chapter could then either choose to have it spoiled for them or hold off on looking at the discussion until they have caught up on their reading. Edited by frenkeld on 08 June 2012 at 10:50pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4829 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 59 of 76 08 July 2012 at 12:35am | IP Logged | ||
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I don't know if this is of any interest to anyone here, but I recently found an English
translation of Thomas Mann's "Der Tod in Venedig" ("Death in Venice") online: here:- http://www.feedbooks.com/userbook/20281/death-in-venice It is in PDF, EBUB, and MOBI (Kindle) format. I cannot vouch for the quality of the translation, but it may be ok. OK: I can see from the preview that I'm getting link problems with this, so here it is in non-clickable form. You will probably have to remove a space: http://www.feedbooks.com/userbook/20281/death-in-venice Edited by montmorency on 09 July 2012 at 5:09am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4829 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 60 of 76 09 July 2012 at 5:53am | IP Logged | ||
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For fans of Fontane, this looks pretty interesting. I'm not going to attempt to give a
link, but if you go to amazon.com, then search on "Irrungen Wirrungen, Berliner Roman: Diversions and Entanglements, A Berlin Novel (translation) (English and German Edition)". It has both German and English text, side by side, as well as comprehensive notes. Not especially cheap, but could be worth it, especially those who like parallel texts. (The PD translation, that one can find on Gutenberg, seems not to be highly regarded). 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4829 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 61 of 76 10 July 2012 at 11:33am | IP Logged | ||
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On the subject of Fontane, I was pleasantly surprised to find in my local
library the other day, the translation of Effi Briest by Hugh Rorrison and Helen Chambers, with intro and notes also by HC. This copy was in Penguin Classics, but I think the same translation has appeared in Angel Books. From the notes, I think you can tell that a lot of care has been taken with the translation, and it seems like a very good version to me. I think there are possibly other good modern translations around, but until now, I had only read the one on Gutenberg, which is unfortunately abridged. This one is complete, and close enough to the original to be useful to those who want to read it along with the German (and possibly L-R it). I used to think reading the translation first was somehow "cheating", but I've changed my view, partly through experience, and partly thanks to Prof. Arguelles' view that unless you know about 90-95% of the vocabulary, it's quite hard to get anything out of it, if you are trying to read it "extensively". You can read it intensively if you wish, but that can take a very long time, and you can lose the momentum and the will to continue if you are not careful. Especially with 19th and early 20th century novels, one is always likely to have gaps in one's vocabulary. I "harvested" at least 300 words from "Buddenbrooks" over recent weeks, and that was even without noting down every word I was unsure of. @Sofiapofia: I read Die Verlorene Ehre der Katharina Blum by Henrich Böll, quite a few years ago. I probably read that slowly and "intensively", dictionary in hand, and probably didn't get as much out of it as I should. I might make a better job of it now, even without a translation. There is also a film version, with Hanna Schygulla, who also starred in the Fassbinder film of "Effi Briest" (and several other Fassbinder films). She's also in a film version of another Böll novel, "Ansichten Eines Clowns". 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4829 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 62 of 76 22 July 2012 at 11:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Apologies: It wasn't Hannah Schygulla who played in the film version of "Die Verlorene
Ehre der Katharina Blum". I was mis-remembering the photo from the front of my paperback copy (confusing it with another film). It was someone called Angela Winkler. Apologies for the factual error. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073858/ 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 63 of 76 19 April 2013 at 2:52pm | IP Logged | ||
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Is anyone interested in reviving this? We could use Dailylit.
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| mahasiswa Pentaglot Groupie Canada Joined 4433 days ago 91 posts - 142 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, German, Malay Studies: Arabic (Egyptian), Persian, Russian, Turkish, Mandarin, Hindi | Message 64 of 76 19 April 2013 at 3:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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I wouldn't mind so much joining in. I'm writing my third-year German exam today, German Lit. of the 20
and 21st century. I had to read short stories and other pieces of literature by Hesse, Schnitzler, Kafka, Dada, Thomas Mann, Brecht, Celan, Friedrich Dürrenmatt, Plenzdorf, Ingeborg Bachmann, Elias Canetti, Emine Sevgi Özdamar and Bernhard Schlink. Ich lese sehr gerne auf Deutsch! Dailylit looks great, by the way! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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