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Scots?
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I would tap for Tok Pisin and Bislama.
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Scots, Afrikaans, Dutch, Frisian, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, HTML, CSS, AppleScript.
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As an English speaker, I find Ukrainian to be very intuitive.
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beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4620 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian
| Message 13 of 80 01 June 2012 at 10:00pm | IP Logged |
Is Scots classed as a language in it's own right? I'm a Scotsman but I would say that most people here speak a version of Scottish-English, not the auld Scots the likes of Rabbie Burns wrote in. We do have a lot of Scots words still in everyday use but some are dying out. I think back to the vocabulary my granny used, words I know the meaning of, but I don't hear them spoken often by young people.
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tractor Tetraglot Senior Member Norway Joined 5451 days ago 1349 posts - 2292 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Spanish, Catalan Studies: French, German, Latin
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beano wrote:
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Depends on who you ask.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language
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COF Senior Member United States Joined 5829 days ago 262 posts - 354 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 15 of 80 01 June 2012 at 10:17pm | IP Logged |
Only SNP supporting, highly nationalistic types think Scots is its own language. Such ideas tend to be rooted in anti-English sentiment and a desire to appear as distict from England as possible.
The truth is, no one really speaks Scots in every day life, it is a very archaic dialect and some would argue it was only ever really used in a poetic sense, not in every day speech.
Scots is no more its own language than broad Cockney is.
Edited by COF on 01 June 2012 at 10:19pm
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beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4620 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian
| Message 16 of 80 01 June 2012 at 10:33pm | IP Logged |
COF wrote:
Only SNP supporting, highly nationalistic types think Scots is its own language. Such ideas tend to be rooted in anti-English sentiment and a desire to appear as distict from England as possible.
The truth is, no one really speaks Scots in every day life, it is a very archaic dialect and some would argue it was only ever really used in a poetic sense, not in every day speech.
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There are many verbs, nouns and adjectives unique to Scotland. They are all placed in broadly the same grammatical framework as English but the further back you go, the stronger and more distinct the dialect/language. Danish and Swedish are classed as different languages yet a lot of mutual comprehension exists. Ditto Serbian and Croatian. I guess the existence of separate political identity helps validate the classification of these languages.
Even today, Scots people rarely use the English concepts "shall" and "ought" - preferring "will" and "should" respectively. "Should have went...." is also frequently heard and that sounds natural to me, although I know the grammar book says "gone" is more appropriate here. Maybe all this is just an example of a dialect at work but Scots is certainly a more impenetrable dialect than Cockney.
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