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| tastyonions Triglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/UIdChYRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4663 days ago 1044 posts - 1823 votes  Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: Italian | Message 137 of 251 16 October 2013 at 12:56am | IP Logged | |||||
Very interesting, thanks. I actually feel pretty good about my spoken French after watching those. Though I imagine being in a test situation would make a fair dent in my normal level of speaking. :-)
I have no idea. Personally, I found it easy to understand all the French levels, but I know I certainly couldn't express myself as fluently as those C2 speakers. (On the other hand, the Spanish C2 lost me within about 25 seconds :-D). Edited by tastyonions on 16 October 2013 at 1:02am 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4686 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 138 of 251 02 December 2013 at 1:01am | IP Logged | |||||
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No posts in this log for a while, but I'm still plugging away when I can, mostly reading and some radio listening.
Among other things, I've been reading a book I got from deastore.com called "Das Cusanus Spiel" (German, obviously). It's a future post-apocalyptic time travelers trying to undo the apocalypse book, from what I can tell at about 175 pages into this 700+ pager. What I thought people here might find most interesting is the occasional casual mixing of other languages into the mix. For example, most of the action thus far has taken place in Italy, first in Rome, and recently Venice. Place names and government institutions are frequently referenced in Italian, and basic Italian phrases are sometimes sprinkled into the mix for good measure. It would be harder to follow without my basic Italian. And just recently, as part of a demonstration of their futuristic language learning technology, we see how the protagonist has knowledge of Dutch implanted into her brain. While wandering in a kind of virtual reality public market, she starts talking to a merchant, and suddenly the book is in Dutch. Nothing super advanced, and it only lasts for about half a page before switching back (mostly) to German, but again, it would be very disorienting if I hadn't studied Dutch already. Neat stuff. It's not on the level of Umberto Eco's "Name of the Rose" for bewildering language mixing for plot purposes, but enough to keep me more amused than without the linguistic diversions. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 139 of 251 02 December 2013 at 3:00am | IP Logged | |||||
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Haha sounds good! For more multilingual books, may I just recommend Sapkowski's trilogy about Reynevan? :) They're originally in Polish though, but a German translation is available at bookdepository. Even the titles reflect the multilingualism: Narrenturm, Gottesstreiter, Lux perpetua. Well, less noticeable in German, but Narrenturm is named like that in the original too.
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| Hekje Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4701 days ago 842 posts - 1330 votes Speaks: English*, Dutch Studies: French, Indonesian | Message 140 of 251 02 December 2013 at 6:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
That's awesome. Reminds me of that German-language conversation from De Aanslag. Did you feel like a beneficiary of futuristic language-learning technology (being able to understand the Dutch)? :-P 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4686 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 141 of 251 02 December 2013 at 6:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
Not really. I was preoccupied with the fact that this was possibly the same technology that Keanu Reeves used to learn Kung Fu. But I did spend a good bit of time going back over this section trying to figure out which words might have been difficult to guess without having studied Dutch, and whether I would have been able to figure all or most of it out based on cognates, because I didn't have the possibly intended experience of half-following, half-being confused. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Hekje Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 4701 days ago 842 posts - 1330 votes Speaks: English*, Dutch Studies: French, Indonesian | Message 142 of 251 02 December 2013 at 11:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
Hahaha, oh Keanu. But yeah, I would wonder the same thing. The book is German, and German and Dutch are quite close, so I'm guessing that the author did intend it to be pretty transparent. Sounds like a good book. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| geoffw Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 4686 days ago 1134 posts - 1865 votes Speaks: English*, German, Yiddish Studies: Modern Hebrew, French, Dutch, Italian, Russian | Message 143 of 251 10 December 2013 at 3:40am | IP Logged | |||||
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SUPER CHALLENGE UPDATE - Dutch Challenge COMPLETE
Against all odds, I have finished my Half Super-Challenge in Dutch, a language I never really intended to study in the first place. Intending to learn French, I also signed up, more or less on a whim, for the Half Super Challenge in Dutch, and said something along the lines of "who knows?" Now I know. At this point, I can comfortably read YA level fiction for fun and understand most news items, and I can watch TV news and documentaries without much trouble. And I even can hold a simple conversation, though I'm still fairly shaky--not at all surprising given that I've only had maybe 4 total conversations so far. Just like when I signed up for the SC, I still have no great dreams of mastering this charming language, merely an openness and enthusiasm to stick with it a while longer (TAC 2014!) and to say "who knows?" BOOKS (Italian): 3. ... FILMS, ETC. (Italian): 50. COMPLETE BOOKS (French): 22. ... FILMS, ETC. (French): 50. COMPLETE BOOKS (Dutch): 42-44. De Reisgenoten (LoTR1)(partially complete) 45-50. Harry Potter en de Orde van de Feniks (partially complete) FILMS, ETC. (Dutch): 50. COMPLETE I am not entered in any Super Challenge for German, but I also am still reporting for my log: BOOKS (German): 25. ... FILMS, ETC. (German): 75. ... 5 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
 songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5207 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map | Message 144 of 251 10 December 2013 at 1:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
Well done and congratuations, fellow-PAX member! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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