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slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6679 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 9 of 96 14 January 2007 at 5:34am | IP Logged |
Guido wrote:
The key on assimil is WRITE the lesson too, not just heard it. I have studied German, Japanese and French with Assimil, and if you write the lessons after hearing and reading em till you understand it, it works. And the 2ยบ wave its important to, so, what you have incorporated in "rules" will pass to be incorparated by the intuition, its just a mental process.
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Hola Guido:
What method do you use with Assimil?
Do you write lessons in the first wave or in the second wave? Do you do more than two waves?
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| Vinnie Groupie England Joined 6528 days ago 65 posts - 66 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 10 of 96 14 January 2007 at 8:17am | IP Logged |
I have completed Assimil Italian.
I used it completing only 3 lessons per week, but doing the 3 lessons during the whole week. This allowed me to really get all the material in my mind.
I would start a lesson simply by listening to the cd and reading the text, then i would pause and repeat. I do not worry about pronounciation too much at this point. Once through the lesson i would cover the Italian text and would try to write the lesson out (translating from english to Italian), if i could not remember a particular part i would simply look at the italian text. Once i had done this for the whole lesson i would then leave it and go about my daily tasks. A few hours later i would then read the text again and listen to the cd, cover the Italian text again and translate the lesson from english to Italian. The difference this time being that id rarely make a mistake. The next day i would review all i had learned the previous.
I had to use this method because of work, so it was purly by accident that i discovered this way of doing it. But the first few lessons i completed were to the standard instructions, and i can honestly say i did't remember much until i started with this method. Yes it may have taken me about 9 months to complete, but that doesnt matter. After all you are wanting to aquire the language and remember it not get it in a race where you dont remember it. And now i can recall nearly all of the lessons when i choose.
Edited by Vinnie on 14 January 2007 at 8:22am
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| Guido Super Polyglot Senior Member ArgentinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6532 days ago 286 posts - 582 votes Speaks: Spanish*, French, English, German, Italian, Portuguese, Norwegian, Catalan, Dutch, Swedish, Danish Studies: Russian, Indonesian, Romanian, Polish, Icelandic
| Message 11 of 96 14 January 2007 at 3:35pm | IP Logged |
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Hola Guido:
What method do you use with Assimil?
Do you write lessons in the first wave or in the second wave? Do you do more than two waves?
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This is what i do: write every lesson (all of em), but when im on lesson 50 (which one i already wrote) i read the "my mother language tongue text, but spelling it in the target language"... and it works... Ya, sometimes you forget some expression and words of, for example, the french Argot (popular part of the language).
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6679 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English
| Message 12 of 96 14 January 2007 at 5:13pm | IP Logged |
Guido wrote:
slucido wrote:
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Hola Guido:
What method do you use with Assimil?
Do you write lessons in the first wave or in the second wave? Do you do more than two waves?
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This is what i do: write every lesson (all of em), but when im on lesson 50 (which one i already wrote) i read the "my mother language tongue text, but spelling it in the target language"... and it works... Ya, sometimes you forget some expression and words of, for example, the french Argot (popular part of the language). |
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If I understand your steps are:
1-Read and listen every day a lesson in target language.
and after write the lesson.
2-After lesson 50, your start from the first lesson and translate from your native language (second wave) and continue with first wave.
It seems you use the standard Assimil method, but writing the lessons, isn't it?
Do your repeat aloud the lessons in the first wave?
In the second wave, do you translate speaking aloud or writing or both?
Edited by slucido on 14 January 2007 at 5:16pm
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| Roger Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6596 days ago 159 posts - 161 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Indonesian
| Message 13 of 96 15 January 2007 at 4:27am | IP Logged |
It may seem standard but writing has a major difference in helping one understand the language.
Thanks vinnie your method is similar to mine except i do one lesson per day.
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| Zorndyke Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6962 days ago 374 posts - 382 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Czech
| Message 14 of 96 18 January 2007 at 12:27pm | IP Logged |
Linguamor, may I ask what your timing is and how many lessons you do per day when learning with your method?
Edited by Zorndyke on 18 January 2007 at 12:31pm
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| Linguamor Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 6622 days ago 469 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch
| Message 15 of 96 18 January 2007 at 2:43pm | IP Logged |
Zorndyke wrote:
Linguamor, may I ask what your timing is and how many lessons you do per day when learning with your method? |
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In the example I have given above, I would be doing 10-12 lessons per session, 5-6 new lessons and 5-6 of the immediately preceding lessons. However, in order to proceed at this pace, the language would have to be relatively easy, either because it was related to one I already knew, e.g. Italian after French, or German after Norwegian, or because I had already used other materials in the language. With a more difficult language, e.g. Greek, Russian, the pace would be slower, 2-3 new lessons and 2-3 of the immediately preceding lessons. Depending on the time I had available, the "sessions" would often be broken up into smaller "mini-sessions" - I might do two of the preceding lessons in one "mini-session", three more in another "mini-session" later in the day, and then a couple of new lessons the next day.
The goal of proceeding through language learning materials this way was to assimilate the basic structure of the language and 2500-3000 of the most frequent words and phrases as quickly as possible so that I could get on with using the language, i.e. reading, watching movies and TV, and conversing with speakers of the language.
Edited by Linguamor on 20 January 2007 at 2:21am
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| Zorndyke Diglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6962 days ago 374 posts - 382 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Czech
| Message 16 of 96 18 January 2007 at 3:37pm | IP Logged |
Thank you for the reply, Linguamor.
I will use this method for Swedish and see how well it works for me.
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