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| LilleOSC Senior Member United States lille.theoffside.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6689 days ago 545 posts - 546 votes  4 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, Arabic (Written) | Message 17 of 23 18 June 2007 at 9:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
Oh so its a synonym.Thanks for the link. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| maxb Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 7181 days ago 536 posts - 589 votes 7 sounds Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 18 of 23 19 June 2007 at 4:38am | IP Logged | |||||
Actually he has worked as a teacher of Swedish as foreign language for a very long time and has lot of expertise in the field. And when chorusing it doesn't really matter if the language is tonal or not. All children learn their first language by listening and imitation whether it is a tonal language, pitch accent language or any other language. Bascially his method is based on learning a lot of sentences by heart using the chorus method. This way you learn pronunciation, intonation and also vocabulary and grammar. Since, according to Kjellin, the common grammatical words are the most frequent in the language you are bound to come across them over and over and thus acquire them fairly quickly. And it is entirely possible to learn a tonal language by mainly listening and imitating up to a rather high level. I am at a high intermediate level myself and I am largely learning by listening and imitating. I use podcasts, audio books, movies and other resources. Of course it is important to have a transcript as well to check the meaning of unknown words easily. But when I learn new words I do so mainly by listening and imitating. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6548 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 19 of 23 19 June 2007 at 10:01pm | IP Logged | |||||
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How is your conversation?
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| maxb Diglot Senior Member Sweden Joined 7181 days ago 536 posts - 589 votes 7 sounds Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 20 of 23 20 June 2007 at 5:50am | IP Logged | |||||
I have a chinese wife, so I get alot of conversation practice. I guess I am lucky in this regard. But I would like to emphasize that you still need to do a lot of studying and practicing pronunciation on your own. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6548 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 21 of 23 20 June 2007 at 8:57pm | IP Logged | |||||
Heh heh, you got me there maxb. I guess you're covered on the hundreds of hours of conversation:) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| brian00321 Senior Member United States Joined 6596 days ago 143 posts - 148 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 22 of 23 21 June 2007 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
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How effective is chorusing for languages that have sounds that don't exist in
English? I mean like French with the guttural Rs, Arabic with some of their sounds, etc. I'm willing to try it as long as I think it will help me with the German/French R. I was also taking the long route of learning French (ALG style) and really feel like it's a waste of time. Chorusing seems a lot quicker (and a lot harder too) and you actually work your mouth. So your more active. Which I don't mind. Any answers? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese | Message 23 of 23 21 June 2007 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | |||||
It helps, but to a limited degree. The French R gives me a lot of trouble, as does the German R if I try to do it at the back of my mouth (I use the front variant, generally), and my Dutch 'g' is pretty inconsistent. On the other hand, my German ü and ö, which don't correspond to English sounds, are fairly good, and my Persian accent is fairly decent; only one sound in Persian gave me serious trouble, and after trying fairly hard over two days on it, with the latter being after a native speaker tried to correct me, I managed to get it right with the native speaker the next time. Chorusing helps a -lot- with accent, intonation, rhythm, etc. It helps to some degree with sounds that don't exist in a language you already speak. Consonants near the back of the throat, or deep in it, which don't have a high-in-the-back-throaty sound (as found in Persian and Dutch) seem to be hardest, at least for me. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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