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 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6912 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 9 of 14 20 July 2007 at 6:08pm | IP Logged | ||
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The thread Language proficiency comparison has some additional info.
Regarding Assimil - I just had a brief look at the self assessment grid and while the course definitely takes the student beyond A2 (possibly B1), I don't think that it alone provides enough meat for B2 (at least not C1). But you get most of the grammar you need, and are well prepared to improve your German by using it. Just my thoughts. By the way, there is a self assessment checklist which can be used to "plan a course of learning and to identify appropriate learning tasks". 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cage Diglot aka a.ardaschira, Athena, Michael Thomas Senior Member United States Joined 6627 days ago 382 posts - 393 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Portuguese | Message 10 of 14 22 July 2007 at 3:37am | IP Logged | ||
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Jeff one of the sites you gave me concerning the European system a1, a2 etc I was not able to access for some reason. All the others I could. How would you contrast proficiency between a B2 level and a C1 level?
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| jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6912 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 11 of 14 22 July 2007 at 6:34am | IP Logged | ||
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Which link didn't work?
It's not easy to draw a clear line between the different levels, I just felt that C1 is probably a bit too advanced ("I can understand long and complex factual and literary texts") - at least in terms of Assimil (or any other method), mainly because it lacks the vocabulary. I don't think any single course gives you the X level in all fields - having a look at the grid (HTML version) again, it's safe to assume that A2 is achieved, probably B1, possibly B2 (depending on the situations you're in) and so on. There are many factors to consider: listening, reading, spoken interaction, spoken production, and writing. However, "I can understand television programmes and films without too much effort." (also from C1) may of course be possible. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Cage Diglot aka a.ardaschira, Athena, Michael Thomas Senior Member United States Joined 6627 days ago 382 posts - 393 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Portuguese | Message 12 of 14 22 July 2007 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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The first link didn't work about the European system. I was wondering in general the difference in ability between say B2 and C1 not for any course in particular. I would say C2 would be complete native ability. C1 might be equivilent to say FSI S3?
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| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7106 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 13 of 14 23 July 2007 at 7:36am | IP Logged | ||
I had a similar question a while back on this thread here. I ended up buying Hammer's German Grammar and Usage (and the workbook as well) which is excellent. Andy. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Harlow Newbie Canada Joined 6242 days ago 4 posts - 5 votes Studies: German | Message 14 of 14 26 October 2007 at 5:59am | IP Logged | ||
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the very best book you can buy to help you with Grammar (for english speakers) is english grammar for students of German, an absolute God-send, also check out German without the fuss.
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