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| glossa.passion Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6312 days ago 267 posts - 349 votes  1 sounds Speaks: German*, EnglishC1, Danish Studies: Spanish, Dutch | Message 49 of 85 20 January 2008 at 3:46pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Wow, that is a great compliment! Thanks a lot, it means something to me.
You're right, I don't dare to do so :-)
Your instructions in pronounciation are highly appreciated!!! I immediately understood, what you meant and tried all out - with success. But for the glottal stops, so far I did them not intenionally, it's just a coincidence. So again, tusind tak for your effective and priceless support - same for Iversens grammar assistence!!! I've never expected such an encouragement. You all have boosted my motivation. And because I feel so glad, I just booked a flight and hotel for to visit Copenhagen in June :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| glossa.passion Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6312 days ago 267 posts - 349 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, EnglishC1, Danish Studies: Spanish, Dutch | Message 50 of 85 01 February 2008 at 9:09am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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January 2008 - Review
First some statistics: I'm at unit 7 lesson 7 with Rosetta Stone and chapter 11 with the Danish course "Av, min arm!" I was surprised, how good this course fits into my learning progress. I was very excited about the first pronounciation exercises with the dialogs form "Samtaler på dansk", but after two dialogs I realized, that I need to do some training before going on, because I couldn't catch up with the speed. Although I can reproduce every single sound, there are some combinations in words or between words, my tongue hardly could do in the required speed. For example "havde + ..". Additionally I work on the glottal stops, sometimes not so easy, but funny. The reading still works fine and now I sometimes write some paragraphs from the already read books in my notebook and analyse them. That's really a pleasure! Thinking in Danish is slowly but increasing, sometimes English words pop up taking the place of an unknown Danish word. Although I wanted, I didn't do much in writing. Apart from having an interesting challenge at work, which took/takes some of my brain even after working hours, I must go to the dentist next week ... and it will be more than one session. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| glossa.passion Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6312 days ago 267 posts - 349 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, EnglishC1, Danish Studies: Spanish, Dutch | Message 51 of 85 10 January 2009 at 5:18pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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January 2009 - Summing up
Now, it’s nearly one and a half year ago since I started with Danish. And I'd like to sum up all my Danish experiences. Between August 2007 and March 2008 I worked completely and thoroughly through Assimil Danish – 64 lessons Rosetta Stone Danish – Part 1 Av min arm! (Danish for Germans) – 20 lessons Langenscheidts Praktisches Lehrbuch Dänisch – 20 lessons I’ve also read about 12 Danish books, wrote a tiny bit in the multlingual forum and uploaded a soundfile. After doing next to nothing for two months, I visited wonderful Copenhagen and wrote afterwords a milestone log. Highly motivated I wanted to go further and tested at first my Danish knowledge at Dialang. The result had been a solid B1, in detail: B2 Listening comprehension B1 Writing B2 Reading comprehension B1 Grammar B1 Vocabulary Speaking couldn’t be tested and I’d say that I was not more than at an A-level. I had sufficient study materials – textbooks for intermediates/advanced an real material, but failed working through it. For I can be busy as a bee, it was an unusual feeling, not to dive into the books or watch Danish news, although I had the opportunity. Even my brain resisted thinking in Danish. I was also reluctant to engage a tutor. Something was clearly wrong, but I didn’t know what. So I just waited, did some other cursory language studies and in November eventually I’ve got the answer. By chance I met a Danish actress living in Berlin and I invited her to my home. We had a nice talk in Danish, English and German and when she left, I suddenly started thinking in Danish. And then I realized my “missing link” – I had masses of Danish words, sentences, sounds, pictures, grammar structures in my brain, but I lacked the “feeling part - my glue between all”, the personal contact in which I am adressed in Danish, so that I can combine all my learned knowledge with real experiences. That may sound odd to most or even all of you, but people are different and I knew then, what I had to do, to pick up my Danish studies again. Finding a suitable tutor is not an easy thing, at least for me. I can’t deal very good with regularities, like for example meeting every Thursday at four o’clock. But I do know, what I’m looking for and the new year has just started, so I’ll surely find a solution. And after the penny had dropped, I even could make a fresh selfstudy turn on wonderful Danish. Although Swedisch is now my latest love … and also some Turkish has crept into my studies. But that’s another story. And at last thanks to all people, who have supported me in this log and in the multilingual lounge. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
 Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5838 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 52 of 85 11 January 2009 at 1:03am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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This is a very interesting log, especially for me, because I am also interested in the Danish language. I have seen it for the first time now, I didn't know that you also have a log. Well done, everything!
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| Frost Newbie United States Joined 5794 days ago 27 posts - 26 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Norwegian, Faroese, Greek | Message 53 of 85 25 January 2009 at 12:57pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Thanks! This log has been very informative. :)
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| glossa.passion Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6312 days ago 267 posts - 349 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, EnglishC1, Danish Studies: Spanish, Dutch | Message 54 of 85 25 February 2009 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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With Danish I’m now at an intermediate level. Although I lack practice in speaking, I still work with pleasure on this language. Apart from reading Danish books, working through advanced textbooks and watching Danish news, I use the following resources:
NetDansk 2 A fine internet course, aimed for students. Danmark før og nu (Læremateriale om historie, kultur og samfundsforhold til indfødsretsprøve) Text and mp3-audio for free. By the way, there are lots of interesting things on nyidanmark , for example Denmark til daglig. A free tool (Få teksten læst højt) which reads Danish words or sentences on my computer, very useful when writing own texts or when you don’t know how to pronounce a certain word or expression. For working on pronounciation and prosody I go to basby, really a great and therefore highly recommendable resource. While I was looking in vain for a Danish tutor, I came across a special offer from a Swedish tutor via Skype … And that’s why I started Swedish last November. I use Assimil (now at lesson 65 out of 100), an old Linguaphone (now at lesson 21 out of 96) and a special course for Swedish pronounciation (Uttala svenska, Lehrwerk der schwedischen Aussprache, mit 8 Audio-CDs). With all the Danish knowledge it’s not that difficult to study Swedish. But I soon realized, that I needed another language between the study of these two close languages, a completely different one. And so I browsed through my library, looking for interesting materials of a non-Indo-European language. How I loved that! At the end Japanese (a picture based course) and Turkish (original course from Turkey) were shortlisted and the latter got the knocking down, because there are so many Turkish people living in Germany and if I go downtown Berlin I’ll hear loads of spoken Turkish. So in January I began with Turkish … and I was (and still am!) surprised and really overwhelmed, how beautiful this language is. I didn’t expect such a wealth of wonderful words and expressions. The grammar of an agglutinative language is something special – I love it. The course “Türkisch im Selbststudium” (Turkish selfstudy) consists of three books and seven cassettes and I’m now at lesson 24 out of 96. Additionally I’ll use the three-part course “Günaydın” from the distinguished Reichert Verlag which claims to teach about 9000 words. And when studying a language I must read something about the history of the according country. Again I was overwhelmed! I didn’t realize before the broad archaeology and history of Turkey. I’m not that good at keeping a detailed log, but I’ll update this log now and then. Edited by glossa.passion on 25 February 2009 at 12:14pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| glossa.passion Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 6312 days ago 267 posts - 349 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, EnglishC1, Danish Studies: Spanish, Dutch | Message 55 of 85 26 February 2009 at 4:43pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Turkish – Türkisch
I’ll write in German about my Turkish studies. It’s easier and most if not all of the other Turkish learners here speak also German. Letzten Monat habe ich mit Türkisch begonnen und ich bin immer noch hin und weg von dieser außergewöhnlichen Sprache. Die Struktur des Kurses „Türkisch im Selbststudium“ kommt mir zudem sehr entgegen. Jedes Kapitel beginnt mit den Vokabeln, die als Wort, in einem Satz, einem Bild und den deutschen Übersetzungen angegeben werden. Anschließend werden verschiedene grammatikalische Themen, mit jeweils vielen Beispielsätzen, behandelt,. Dann folgt entweder ein Dialog oder ein Lesetext mit Fragen. Abschließend werden einige Übungsaufgaben gestellt. Ich freue mich immer besonders auf den Lesetext, deshalb hier ein Auszug (den ersten Absatz) von meiner heutigen Lektion: Güzel bir pazar günü. Hava sıcak. Parkta çocuklar oynunor. Parkın yanında büyük bir kafeterya var. Kafeteryanın masaları küçük ve kırmızdır. Sandalyelerde insanlar oturuyor. Boş masalar da var. Yeni insanlar kafeteryaya geliyor ve boş sandalyelere oturuyorlar. Fragen zum Text: Hava soğuk mu? Kafeterya nerede? Kafeteryanın masalarının rengi nedir? Boş masa var mı? Das ist natürlich ziemlich einfach, aber ich bin ja auch noch ganz am Anfang. Antworten zu den obigen Fragen: Hayır. Sıcak. Parkın yanındadır. Kırmızıdır. Evet, var. Edited by glossa.passion on 01 March 2009 at 9:19pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5838 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map | Message 56 of 85 26 February 2009 at 4:49pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Super, glossa.passion! Das ist für mich auch eine gute Übung. Macht nichts, wenn es einfach ist, denn das Vokabular in jedem Lehrbuch ist doch anders. Danke für das Übungsmaterial. Die -dir - tir Formen kommen in meinem Buch gar nicht vor. Güle güle gelsin! Fasulye-Babylonia Edited by Fasulye on 26 February 2009 at 4:51pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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