Giordano Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7175 days ago 213 posts - 218 votes 3 sounds Speaks: English*, Italian*, French Studies: Cantonese, Greek
| Message 25 of 346 07 August 2005 at 11:22am | IP Logged |
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6. Arabic- the language of EDITED . It behooves us all to learn as much as we can about that culture. |
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There is also the fact that Arabs kept ancient knowledge (Greek and Roman philosophy, mathematics, and science) alive for the centuries that Europe was standing still in the Dark Ages. Along with the Monks of Ireland, the Arabs were integral in re-introducing Europe to such basics as Geometry, Astrology, etc.., plus, they invented Algebra. Much of the ancient literature we now have was re-discovered by Europeans through Arabic.
Plus, a surprizing (maybe not when we realize how much knowledge we took from Arab sociteies) amount of European words derive from Arabic, like algorithm, alcohol, alchemy, sugar, cotton... You can bet that many scientific words filtered in through Arabic literature.
You may also want to note that it is widely believed that the new wave of radical Islamist terrorism which is expected to sweep through Europe will most likely be driven by European-born children of Arab immigrants. The perpetrators of the recent Bobmings in London all spoke English with perfect British accents. Also, a huge number of Muslims speak no Arabic, but are still exposed to extremist brainwashing. If your drive to defeat radical Islam is so great, you should also consder learning Malay/Indonesian and Farsi, the two other main languages of the Islamic World.
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While I am at it I will give my opinion of the 5 most EDITED languages to learn outside of the numerous Indian languages.
1. Hungarian
2. Finish
3 Mongolian
4. Tibetan
5 Estonian
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1. Hunarian: Great country for travelling... plus, Hugely Difficult Languages are strangely appealing.
2. Finnish: Again, Difficulty appeal, cool country, interesting culture.
3. Mongolian: Interesting alphabet, lots of yaks.
4. Tibetan: Support a free Tibet! Language of one of the most interesting branches of Buddhism, and one of the most interesting countries in the World to visit (at least to me).
5. Estonian: From what I understand, it is quite similar to Finnish?
Edited by administrator on 07 August 2005 at 12:14pm
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administrator Hexaglot Forum Admin Switzerland FXcuisine.com Joined 7377 days ago 3094 posts - 2987 votes 12 sounds Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, Russian Personal Language Map
| Message 26 of 346 07 August 2005 at 12:12pm | IP Logged |
I edited the comments by Randy as he could not reply to my PM in time before others would reply to his messages. I will not tolerate disparaging messages about other people's languages on this forum.
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Nephilim Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 7146 days ago 363 posts - 368 votes Speaks: English*, Polish
| Message 27 of 346 07 August 2005 at 1:31pm | IP Logged |
Good call Administrator - I thought it a bit odd that that message got through without editing
Randy310, it's ok to have an opinion about other languages but you must remember those languages have speakers who possibly contribute to these discussions so you may want to reword your opinions so as not to offend.
It's important not to alienate people. Though, having read your inedited e-mail, I'm sure that wasn't your intention.
Edited by Nephilim on 11 August 2005 at 3:06am
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Aena Newbie United States geocities.com/mo Joined 7050 days ago 39 posts - 39 votes Studies: Mandarin, English*
| Message 28 of 346 07 August 2005 at 3:49pm | IP Logged |
My list:
Chinese
Spanish
French
Italian
German
Japanese
Hindustani/Hindi
Arabic
Portuguese
Russian
Korean
For fun:
Sanskrit
Czech
Finnish
Romani
Swahili, other African languages
Tibetian
Maltese?
Moldovan?
Greek
Constructed Languages & selected Auxiliary Languages
Edited by Aena on 20 August 2005 at 8:00am
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Nephilim Diglot Senior Member Poland Joined 7146 days ago 363 posts - 368 votes Speaks: English*, Polish
| Message 29 of 346 08 August 2005 at 1:49am | IP Logged |
Aena,
A very interesting list. Could you please tell us why ypu want to learn these languages? Why have you selected these languages and not others? What methods and materials might you use? Do you have any ideas as to how long each might take? Is there any reason why you have selected the most difficult languages on the planet? Have you already started on some of them?
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hokusai77 Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 7153 days ago 212 posts - 217 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Italian*, FrenchB1, EnglishC1 Studies: GermanB1, Japanese
| Message 30 of 346 08 August 2005 at 8:29am | IP Logged |
perramount wrote:
Here is my list; based mainly on work needs. (As you will see, we do a lot of business with Italy!):
Spanish
Italian
Portuguese
Mandarin
Lombard
Turkish
Napoletano-Calabrese
Sicilian
Javanese
Piemontese
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4 Italian dialects!! But you can count just on your Italian, as dialects are never used in a job environment. But it would be fun listening to a foreigner speaking a dialect ;)
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hokusai77 Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 7153 days ago 212 posts - 217 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Italian*, FrenchB1, EnglishC1 Studies: GermanB1, Japanese
| Message 31 of 346 08 August 2005 at 8:49am | IP Logged |
For an American I would suggest:
1. Spanish: obviously, the most important language after English in the USA.
2. FRENCH: a must for every polyglot, as Barry Farber writes in his book + cultural and economic reasons. French is still, with English, the official language of diplomacy.
3. JAPANESE: The USA are the main economic partner of Japan, which is still the second largest economy in the world.
4. PORTUGUESE: Geographical and economic reasons (Brazil).
5. MANDARIN: Mainly economic reasons.
From No. 6 onwards, one could learn
6. An African language, such as ARABIC or SWAHILI
7. An Asian language, such as KOREAN, INDONESIAN, MALAY, CANTONESE
8. A European language, such as German, ITALIAN, DUTCH, DANISH, NORWEGIAN, SWEDISH, FINNISH, GREEK, RUSSIAN, etc.
9-10 Two of the above.
Edited by hokusai77 on 08 August 2005 at 8:51am
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Aena Newbie United States geocities.com/mo Joined 7050 days ago 39 posts - 39 votes Studies: Mandarin, English*
| Message 32 of 346 08 August 2005 at 11:45am | IP Logged |
Nephilim wrote:
Aena,
A very interesting list. Could you please tell us why ypu want to learn these languages? Why have you selected these languages and not others? What methods and materials might you use? Do you have any ideas as to how long each might take? Is there any reason why you have selected the most difficult languages on the planet? Have you already started on some of them?
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The first list is for expediency; the second, fun. I want to learn those in the first list because of the field I'm going into. The second list, I want to learn because of the sound or script.
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