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| furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6378 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes  Speaks: Latin* | Message 97 of 123 14 September 2007 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Oh, so this entire discussion was about Rosetta Stone then?! Pity the innocent forum members who assumed it was about Tarzan speak and language learning techniques from the start. For the sake of completeness and in order to distance myself from Those Who Choose to Drop Arguments That Are Uncomfortable For Them, let me state that I am unlikely to try Rosetta Stone or any other mainstream methods at any point of time in the future, for reasons that are too numerous and too irrelevant to this discussion - although I am sure they are all excellent methods for the right kind of student.
And fire leaves ugly burn marks. But don't trust my experience - especially because I have no evidence of my own. Feel free to do your own research.
Here. Here's what worried me through this whole thread. Everyone has typos. But some things are not typos. They are evidence of the absence of a good grammatical base. Once again, are you sure English is your first language?! It isn't for me but even with my humble skills I seem to be able to detect numerous grammatical irregularities in your texts. This is nothing to be ashamed of in itself but in the context of this discussion it kind of illustrates the whole danger of Tarzan talk. Moreover, you claim to be a teacher of English... Edited by furyou_gaijin on 14 September 2007 at 12:34pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| manny Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6350 days ago 248 posts - 240 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Tagalog Studies: French, German | Message 98 of 123 14 September 2007 at 2:16pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Any scientific proof? Why do younger family members learn the same foreign language with less of an accent? It seems you rely on your own your beliefs, but require others to have scientific proof. It would help if you were more consistent. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6901 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 99 of 123 14 September 2007 at 3:06pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Wild guess - while children's brains are said to have a certain "plasticity" making them able to pick up accents, prosody et.c. more easily (even close to native level), adults should be quite comfortable learning new things as their brains should be in quite good "shape". Any thoughts? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| FSI Senior Member United States Joined 6351 days ago 550 posts - 590 votes Speaks: English* | Message 100 of 123 14 September 2007 at 3:16pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
Possibly because younger family members have not spent nearly as many years solidifying the speech patterns of their original languages? This is like asking why someone who has been staring at a red wall for thirty minutes will find it harder to accurately determine the color of a new wall than someone who's been staring at the red wall for thirty seconds. Do you really think it's because the second person is intrinsically better at determining wall colors? Learning to do something one way makes it harder to learn to a similar thing a different way. Younger people, by definition, have spent less time internalizing one language's patterns, and would be quite abnormal if they didn't find it easier to learn the patterns of new languages than people whose brains, ears, and vocal systems had been tuned to the production and interpretation of one language for decades. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| manny Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6350 days ago 248 posts - 240 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Tagalog Studies: French, German | Message 101 of 123 14 September 2007 at 3:17pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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If this is too involved, we may have to start a new thread?
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| edwin Triglot Senior Member Canada towerofconfusi&Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6456 days ago 160 posts - 183 votes 9 sounds Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French, Spanish, Portuguese | Message 102 of 123 14 September 2007 at 3:38pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Just did.
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?T ID=7244&PN=1 Oops. I should be out of here. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||
| alexptrans Pentaglot Senior Member Israel Joined 6757 days ago 208 posts - 236 votes Speaks: English, Modern Hebrew, Russian*, French, Arabic (Written) Studies: Icelandic | Message 103 of 123 15 September 2007 at 2:51am | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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Funny thread. Feels like being on hidden camera.
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| xtremelingo Trilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6279 days ago 398 posts - 515 votes Speaks: English*, Hindi*, Punjabi* Studies: German, French, Arabic (Written) | Message 104 of 123 15 September 2007 at 4:45pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||
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No it's not a contest. However, I see a few people here that have alot to say in terms of putting down methods when not necessarily offering methods of their own, or offering theoretical ideas of sitting around, listening and magically acquiring languages without any effort (in a non-immersed environment).
I said Tarzan speak has worked for me, and I can prove it. I am open for anyone to test my fluency in any of the languages that I claim. Skype anyone? However, I pose this same challenge to Linguamor as well. However, she appears to be back-tracking now and now exclaims everything I have written is 'incoherent.' Funny how she was able to reply to all of my 'incoherent' posts in this forum. So much for incoherence. I mean afterall, if we are going to judge any methods of anyone. Why not see how well these methods have actually worked in terms of achieving "advanced proficiency." I mean this really shouldn't be a big deal to anyone who is confident in their skills and can back up their methods. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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