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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6542 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 113 of 123 21 September 2007 at 10:58am | IP Logged | ||
This makes no sense to me. Are you referring to some odd psych experiment here? A link would be nice. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| zerothinking Senior Member Australia Joined 6364 days ago 528 posts - 772 votes Speaks: English* | Message 114 of 123 31 July 2008 at 12:13pm | IP Logged | ||
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There is a theory that is completely the opposite to this. That speaking early reinforced bad grammar and is detrimental to your progress. I'm an advocate of this line of thought and I also think highly of a silent period. ^^
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6264 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 115 of 123 01 August 2008 at 3:57am | IP Logged | ||
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I think speaking a language brokenly is better than not speaking it at all, as long as you do not leave it at that. I do not believe in a lengthy period of silence.
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| TheElvenLord Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6072 days ago 915 posts - 927 votes 1 sounds Speaks: Cornish, English* Studies: Spanish, French, German Studies: Portuguese, Mandarin | Message 116 of 123 01 August 2008 at 5:29am | IP Logged | ||
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I spoke from the moment I started learning Cornish, babbling while walking around the house, talking in as best Cornish as I could.
I think it helps, just learning "Me go shop" is not good enough, you should endevour to have the best grammar possible, while speaking as much as possible. TEL 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6003 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 117 of 123 01 August 2008 at 11:23am | IP Logged | ||
But, my friend, this is what to speak one language? Is this that I speak in English brokenly or that I speak in French? You get my drift? I'd argue that what I wrote above is French, not English. There are two main types of "broken" second language: 1) no rules, or at least very few; 2) home language rules Both of these share the problem of reinforcing bad habits. Number 2 is particularly dangerous, because these habits are strong. But number 1 is bad enough, because while Chomsky is correct in saying that language is not a habit, language patterns do appear to be strengthened more by use than by observing. That's why I like teaching that reduces my opportunity to make mistakes (language errors are not like falling off a bike -- I don't think you really learn from them!) without straitjacketting me to a bunch of narrow phrases. But of course straitjacketting doesn't stop you from making mistakes anyway, because you can't wear the straitjacket in public, so you end up forced to say things you haven't been taught to. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6264 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 118 of 123 02 August 2008 at 4:22am | IP Logged | ||
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If it is too broken, it is incomprehensible, but something like "Where is shop?" is comprehensible, and better than total silence.
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| Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6003 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh | Message 119 of 123 02 August 2008 at 6:49am | IP Logged | ||
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I suppose that depends where you're coming from. For a slav, that's pretty bad -- a lot of them never learn articles unless they're taught properly from the ground up.
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| William Camden Hexaglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6264 days ago 1936 posts - 2333 votes Speaks: English*, German, Spanish, Russian, Turkish, French | Message 120 of 123 03 August 2008 at 2:01am | IP Logged | ||
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Being overly worried about your mistakes may prevent you from learning a foreign language. Sounding like Tarzan or a telegraph - well, it might be better than sience and non-communication. Edited by William Camden on 03 August 2008 at 2:01am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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