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| jalcalde Bilingual Heptaglot Newbie Spain Joined 6873 days ago 28 posts - 28 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan*, Portuguese, Esperanto, FrenchC2, English, ItalianC2 | Message 9 of 22 30 January 2006 at 8:29am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Im not an expert, I can only say some words and understand a bit, but I don't think euskera is the most difficult language in Europe. I know some people who have learned it in one year (they communicate without problems), without doing specific efforts for it. It is, definitely, one of the strangest languages in Europe.
However, I do think that it heavily depends on your background. I mean, Russian can be really difficult for an Spaniard, but easy for a Polish. So I am not sure that everybody can reach an agreement of the (objectively) most difficult language, in Europe or wherever. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Raistlin Majere Trilingual Hexaglot Senior Member Spain uciprotour-cycling.c Joined 7149 days ago 455 posts - 424 votes  7 sounds Speaks: English*, Spanish*, Catalan*, FrenchA1, Italian, German Studies: Swedish | Message 10 of 22 30 January 2006 at 2:28pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I'd say euskera is a quite difficult language for two reasons:
1) I tried to learn it myself, but I stopped because of bad learning material (in fact it was so bad I got fed up with it and burned it). The declination system is several times more complex and difficult than that of Finnish, which is already quite hard. 2) It's a language isolate. It can't be easy for anybody in the sense that Italian is easy for a Spaniard or Dutch for an Englishman. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| jalcalde Bilingual Heptaglot Newbie Spain Joined 6873 days ago 28 posts - 28 votes Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan*, Portuguese, Esperanto, FrenchC2, English, ItalianC2 | Message 11 of 22 31 January 2006 at 4:21am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I didn't say euskera was easy. However, I was questioning the idea that it could be the most difficult language in Europe.
Im unhappy to see that you have so many problems when trying to learn it. Me myself, I've found quite interesing and useful free on-line courses. Maybe here you can find some help: http://www.euskalkultura.com/index.php?id=apr Also in wikipedia there are some good links about it. And here there are some characteristics of the language that, from my point of view, make the euskera easier than others: a) The ortography is modern and every sound has a unique letter to represent it. Moreover, there are fewer sounds than in most of languages, even less than in Italian and Spanish. b) Different from Romance languages, words have no gender, good news for English-speakers! c) There are no prepositions...yes, as you know for this reason there are declinations and cases, but I mean, it could be worse. d) There is no written accent, another head-ache for students of Romance languages. e) It is true that verbs are quite difficult, but it is also true that the auxiliar verb is totally regular. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Guanche Hexaglot Senior Member Spain danielmarin.blogspot Joined 7043 days ago 168 posts - 178 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2, GermanC1, RussianB1, French, Japanese Studies: Greek, Mandarin, Arabic (Written) | Message 12 of 22 01 February 2006 at 11:56am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Euskera's grammar is simple and logical, but the language structure is so different from Spanish or English, that I think Euskera is rather difficult. However, I'd say it's probably easier than Hungarian or Finnish. After studying some Japanese and ancient Sumerian, I found that Euskera's grammar is very similar, so if you speak one of these languages, Euskera learning will be easier.
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| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7012 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 13 of 22 01 February 2006 at 12:17pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
I once thought about learning Euskara, but for precisely this reason I didn't actually go through with it. P.S.
You might not find that many speakers of Sumerian (although I could be wrong). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Camambert Triglot Newbie Russian Federation Joined 5923 days ago 10 posts - 10 votes Speaks: Russian*, English, Swedish Studies: German, Korean | Message 14 of 22 23 December 2008 at 4:59pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I think, Hungarian could be more difficult than Finnish. It has three more cases at least (18 vs. 15 in Finnish) :-p
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7153 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 15 of 22 23 December 2008 at 5:27pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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In my uneducated opinion, I'd think that Estonian is slightly harder than Finnish.
Learning Hungarian was much easier for me when compared to what I'm going through with Estonian (and most likely it'll be the same for Finnish whenever I get around to it). Constructing or using Hungarian cases was relatively straightforward compared to how I have to do it in Estonian (the same would almost certainly hold true for Finnish, whenever I'll get around to it). What's more the number of cases wouldn't necessarily mean more overall difficulty. I'm not sure if someone could say that Bulgarian is easier than Russian since the former has effectively no cases whereas the latter has at least 6 cases (up to 8 depending on whom you talk to). There's more to difficulty in language learning than cases. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| gorkem_turkish Triglot Newbie TurkeyRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5813 days ago 25 posts - 26 votes Speaks: Turkish*, English, Mandarin Studies: Spanish | Message 16 of 22 24 December 2008 at 4:13am | IP Logged | ||||||||
http://how-to-learn-any-language.com/e/languages/finnish.htm l
Makes sense. as a turkish person I really admire my language a lot. The grammar is amazing and extremely well-organized since it is a very new language with foundation of turkish republic and leaving arabic letters behind us. Consequently, if Finish affixes are also well organized like Turkish, i may also consider it to study. Maybe you can tell what you think. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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