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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6552 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 34 of 94 14 January 2008 at 11:22pm | IP Logged | ||
In Thailand, IPA is the most commonly used transliteration tool to learn english. The majority of Thai english teachers and english teaching books use IPA to a certain degree to teach english. I disagree with your opinion that a Thai person would not get a meaningful return from learning IPA. The small amount of time required to learn the IPA for english is well worth it (it took me a just few hours, for example). Because so many people use it already, and it's so ingrained and important to so many language learners, I find you "not recommending" anyone to use IPA as a language learning tool to be extreme. Sorry 'bout that. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7030 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 35 of 94 15 January 2008 at 12:43am | IP Logged | ||
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I prefer to listen and will recommend the same to any learners I speak to.
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| leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6552 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog | Message 36 of 94 15 January 2008 at 1:28am | IP Logged | ||
If you used pinyin for more than just typing when you learned Mandarin, I'd say that sounds hypocritical. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Zhuangzi Nonaglot Language Program Publisher Senior Member Canada lingq.com Joined 7030 days ago 646 posts - 688 votes Speaks: English*, French, Japanese, Swedish, Mandarin, Cantonese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian | Message 37 of 94 15 January 2008 at 1:43am | IP Logged | ||
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leosmith,
I recommend the use of Pinyin or other Romanized transliteration systems for languages with a non-phonetic script. I recommend the phonetic script of the language you are learning where such a phonetic script exists.I do not use and do not recommend the IPA which is an artificial and foreign system to me. rightly or wrongly, that is what I think. I have learned quite a few languages without the IPA, how many have you learned? I must say I find your logic strange to say the least. You seem to want to explain away the views of others as extreme or hypocritical. How about accepting that different people hold different opinions and are not just going to bend to your views. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Art07 Groupie Russian Federation Joined 6216 days ago 61 posts - 64 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 38 of 94 15 January 2008 at 5:48am | IP Logged | ||
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IPA is a very useful thing. If you are learning English almost all English dictionaries use IPA. It takes about 5 mintues to get familiar with IPA.
There are even programs that allow you to search a word in the dictionary based on phonetics. You type in how it sounds for you based on IPA and the program searches for the actual word or the words which are very close. I don't see any trouble with IPA because it takes, as I said, no more then 5 mintues to get familiar with it and benifits are worth those 5 minutes. Also, other phonetic systems are very close to IPA and its idea, so knowning IPA helps in other things. And the major benefit of IPA is that it is a standart. I would say 'the' standard for phonetic system, almost every one in some way or another knows it. So, if you are an intelegent man in linguistics, why deny IPA? Edited by Art07 on 15 January 2008 at 5:50am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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