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Sir Nigel
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 Message 177 of 237
10 September 2005 at 7:10pm | IP Logged 
You can buy it here. You might have to get Sound Forge also to use it. I think they combine the two for a little discount.

Just curious, when digitizing FSI has anyone ever had problems with the tapes themselves? I had a few that would just stop halfway through. I had the Barron's tapes and it's like they had too much tape at one end, thus stressing the player and causing it to stop. Rewinding the tape a few times helped.
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morprussell
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 Message 178 of 237
11 September 2005 at 3:43am | IP Logged 
Sir Nigel, thanks for the recommendation. I downloaded the trial versions of "Sound Forge 8" and "The Noise Reduction 2.0". They say that they are fully functional trials that will work for 30 days.

I removed the noise from a sample section, and I have to say it did a great job. The audio sounded great. The only problem was it added loud beeps onto my audio. I'm guessing this is because it's a trial version. I'm hoping that I just forgot to turn off the "add loud beeps to my audio" feature, but I don't think that is the case.   

Sir Nigel wrote:
Just curious, when digitizing FSI has anyone ever had problems with the tapes themselves? I had a few that would just stop halfway through. I had the Barron's tapes and it's like they had too much tape at one end, thus stressing the player and causing it to stop. Rewinding the tape a few times helped.


I haven't had this problem. I'm digitizing with Multilingua tapes and I own some Barron's as well.       
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 Message 179 of 237
11 September 2005 at 5:07am | IP Logged 
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The only problem was it added loud beeps onto my audio.


Have a look at Audio Restoration under the Tools menu.
The Click removal might take care of the added beeps.
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Sir Nigel
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 Message 180 of 237
11 September 2005 at 9:04am | IP Logged 
No, the beeps are part of the demo. They're pretty random too, making it rather hard to remove. ;)
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 Message 181 of 237
16 September 2005 at 3:57pm | IP Logged 
Has anyone written a letter to the Foreign Service Institute asking whether these programs are in the public domain?

If they are indeed in the public domain, then here is my advice for distributing the audio in the least amount of work:

1) Obtain CD version of the course.

2) Convert each CD to ISO files. There is only 1 ISO per CD, so less files to hastle with. Here is step-by-step instructions for how to create an ISO with MagicISO, but you can probably find other pieces of software that make ISOs.

3) Upload the ISO files to the Internet Archive, a place that stores many public domain audio and video. Here is instructions for uploading the files.

4) Now other people can download the ISOs freely. Those people can either burn them directly to CD or dice them into hundreds of separate audio files in a variety of audio formats or run noise cancellation filters on them, and upload those to the Internet Archive as they like.

This makes the work a cooperative effort instead of a cottage industry, so that no one person has to hold the entire workload and people can contribute in areas where their particular area of expertise or resources can be put to use.

Edited by Duke on 17 September 2005 at 12:29pm

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delectric
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 Message 182 of 237
17 September 2005 at 5:17am | IP Logged 
No converting a CD to an ISO file is a slow way of distributing the files. A CD is about 700mb!

You really need to convert the audio into usable mp3 and then into a .zip or .rar file, to make downloading more efficient.

You could probably fit the audio of the entire FSI Chinese course onto one 700mb CD if the CD's are encoded efficiently into usable mp3.

As for are the Chinese FSI files in the public domain? I'm sure there is a short note on the booklets that I have that say, if FSI Chinese is distributed for a non-profit purpose then this is ok!
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Duke
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 Message 183 of 237
17 September 2005 at 12:25pm | IP Logged 
delectric wrote:
No converting a CD to an ISO file is a slow way of distributing the files. A CD is about 700mb!

You really need to convert the audio into usable mp3 and then into a .zip or .rar file, to make downloading more efficient.
You have a point. I am concerned that audio quality will be lost between making a low quality audio file from an already low-quality CD which, in the first place, was made from an old taped recording. I'm not sure if there is an audio equivalent of the moiré effect. With a language course, it is important to have the best quality recording possible. Making an ISO ensures that an exact copy of the CD is made.

You can also use a file splitter to cut the ISO into pieces for easy uploading and downloading. Still, the sum total number of bytes will be much larger than if you converted it to another audio format to begin with.
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Sir Nigel
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 Message 184 of 237
17 September 2005 at 10:38pm | IP Logged 
The audio quality is okay as long as you know what you're doing with mp3s. They have to be a decent bitrate otherwise they sound bad. In addition you can half the size and double the quality by only doing mono files. However scanning in the book for the course might be a pain. Anyone ever done this?


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