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| Message 1 of 25 11 March 2005 at 7:37am | IP Logged |
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Seolyk Newbie United States angelfire.com/scifi2 Joined 7037 days ago 23 posts - 25 votes
| Message 2 of 25 22 August 2005 at 10:37pm | IP Logged |
USEFULNESS:
Norwegian is helpful when you travel to Norway. Where it is the national language. Depending on where you go, you can get by with knowing much or little of the language as many norwegians speak english. Norwegians are very friendly and even if you make mistakes, they will offer corrections to you.
Speaking Norwegian is also helpful in Denmark and Sweden where similar languages are spoken. In fact, Norwegians can understand Danes if the Dane(s) in question speak slowly and 90% of the time, they both can understand each other's written language as it only differs with spelling in most cases.
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Seolyk Newbie United States angelfire.com/scifi2 Joined 7037 days ago 23 posts - 25 votes
| Message 3 of 25 22 August 2005 at 10:43pm | IP Logged |
VARIATIONS:
There are many different dialects of norwegian, where differences range from spelling, to different words for things. Nationally, though Bokmål (or book norwegian) is spoken. The government want everyone to speak nynorsk (or new norwegian) in an attempt to 'norwegianize' the language and make it more different from Swedish and Danish, but as happened with Samnorsk (same norwegian), the effort is failing. Do not worry about dialects though, because most everyone knows Bokmål.
Edited by Seolyk on 27 August 2005 at 10:02am
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Steve Diglot Groupie South Africa Joined 6897 days ago 56 posts - 58 votes Speaks: English*, Afrikaans Studies: Norwegian
| Message 4 of 25 13 February 2006 at 1:49pm | IP Logged |
DIFFICULTIES:
The major difficulty is the three genders. Nouns can take any of the three forms seemingly without reason. There is no set method for determining whether a noun is feminine, masculine or neuter. The best method is really to learn the gender when you learn the word - you can do this most powerfully by learning the word in context.
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Steve Diglot Groupie South Africa Joined 6897 days ago 56 posts - 58 votes Speaks: English*, Afrikaans Studies: Norwegian
| Message 5 of 25 13 February 2006 at 2:00pm | IP Logged |
TRAVEL OPPORTUNITIES
Norway is an incredibly expensive country to travel through for most, however, once you're there, you'll be in no doubt that the spectacular beauty of the countryside is worth the hassle of having to starve yourself for a few days.
Norwegians are always happy to help you, but will most often speak to you in English as the vast majority of people under the age of 40 can hold their own in the language and will probably make you feel a little ashamed. However, a little knowledge of Norwegian will go a very long way, as Norwegians do not expect you to learn their language, any attempt to do so is seen as rather commendable. It's also useful to have some knowledge of the language when leaving visiting the countryside, especially if you come across older folk.
Edited by Steve on 13 February 2006 at 2:04pm
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Linas Octoglot Senior Member Lithuania Joined 6915 days ago 253 posts - 279 votes 5 sounds Speaks: Lithuanian*, Russian, Latvian, French, English, German, Spanish, Polish Studies: Slovenian, Greek, Hungarian, Arabic (Written), Portuguese
| Message 6 of 25 13 February 2006 at 3:04pm | IP Logged |
Steve wrote:
DIFFICULTIES:
The major difficulty is the three genders. Nouns can take any of the three forms seemingly without reason. There is no set method for determining whether a noun is feminine, masculine or neuter. The best method is really to learn the gender when you learn the word - you can do this most powerfully by learning the word in context. |
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But as far as I knoe three genders are in landsmaal only but not in riksmaal which has 2 genders as in danish
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Steve Diglot Groupie South Africa Joined 6897 days ago 56 posts - 58 votes Speaks: English*, Afrikaans Studies: Norwegian
| Message 7 of 25 15 February 2006 at 11:44am | IP Logged |
The three genders are present in Nynorsk and whilst they don't have to be used in Bokmål, it sounds a little bit artificial to use just the two in speech. Norwegian students learn both forms at school and learn all three genders for both. It's common though, for newspapers, etc, to leave out the feminine gender.
Depends on the dialect, really...
Edited by Steve on 15 February 2006 at 12:03pm
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geirtbr Groupie Norway Joined 6660 days ago 83 posts - 90 votes Speaks: Norwegian* Studies: Russian
| Message 8 of 25 20 September 2006 at 7:51am | IP Logged |
I think it is artificial to distinguish the 3 Scandinavian languages in 3 differen languages. Norwegians can understand more than 90% of the other Nordic languages, maybe more like 99%. Remember that standard Norwegian (bookmaal) is essentially Danish, with a pronunciation that is somewhat phonologically closer to the written text than Danish.
- When you study the language at a University in Norway, you don't study Norwegian, you study Nordic.
Actually I would say that there is greater variation within the Norwegian dialects, than between the 3 scandinavian languages.
Edited by geirtbr on 20 September 2006 at 7:53am
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