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| axe02 Triglot Groupie Joined 7223 days ago 71 posts - 73 votes  Speaks: English*, Portuguese, French | Message 65 of 83 03 April 2006 at 1:11pm | IP Logged | ||
I am encouraged by your results and your friend's experience in Brazil. It's also interesting that your method helped you avoid confusing similar languages. I will definitely be using the same principles with my next language. With French, when I finally focused more on listening, it helped tremendously with my comprehension and pronunciation. I had tried shadowing (prematurely, I now think), used all 3 levels of Pimsleur, and a programme dedicated to French pronunciation, yet I got better results from just exposing my ears to authentic speech. I wish I had known about these principles (the Natural Approach, the Birkenbihl method, etc.) years ago. Oh well, better late than never. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Darobat Diglot Senior Member Joined 7190 days ago 754 posts - 770 votes Speaks: English*, Russian Studies: Latin | Message 66 of 83 03 April 2006 at 5:27pm | IP Logged | ||
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I really like the idea of learning this way! I may need to attmempt it with another language!
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| lengua Senior Member United States polyglottery.wordpre Joined 6686 days ago 549 posts - 595 votes Studies: French, Italian, Spanish, German | Message 67 of 83 17 October 2006 at 6:45pm | IP Logged | ||
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This is one of the more interesting threads I read this past summer. Has anyone else tried lots of listening before speaking, with results?
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| Linguamor Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 6620 days ago 469 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch | Message 68 of 83 18 October 2006 at 12:58am | IP Logged | ||
Well, we all learn our native language this way. I learned my languages, and continue to improve them, by getting as much comprehensible input as possible, whether by listening or reading. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7017 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 69 of 83 18 October 2006 at 4:52pm | IP Logged | ||
Yes, but it usually takes children a lot longer to achieve what an adult can in the same timeframe. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Linguamor Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 6620 days ago 469 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch | Message 70 of 83 19 October 2006 at 1:03pm | IP Logged | ||
Can you be more specific? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| patuco Diglot Moderator Gibraltar Joined 7017 days ago 3795 posts - 4268 votes Speaks: Spanish, English* Personal Language Map | Message 71 of 83 19 October 2006 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | ||
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A five-year-old child will have the vocabulary and sentence structure of a five-year-old (regardless of how good his/her accent is) whilst a diligent and motivated adult learner should have a vastly improved vocabulary and firmer grasp of grammar mainly because the adult doesn't have to limit him/herself to listening only.
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| Linguamor Decaglot Senior Member United States Joined 6620 days ago 469 posts - 599 votes Speaks: English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Swedish, Danish, French, Norwegian, Portuguese, Dutch | Message 72 of 83 20 October 2006 at 8:53am | IP Logged | ||
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A five-year-old child has essentially mastered the grammar of his/her language and has a vocabulary of several thousand words with native mastery. Adult language learners vary widely in the level achieved - many never attain native-like mastery of the grammar or vocabulary. Successful language learners have had large amounts of comprehensible input. Comprehensible input includes not only listening, but reading as well.
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