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dampingwire
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 Message 65 of 137
04 June 2013 at 12:07am | IP Logged 
2005 JLPT 3

文字 87% (47/54)
読解 60% (30/50)
聴解 54% (12/22)

Some of the questions were missing or badly formed and so couldn't be answered ... for
example there should have been 50 on the 読解 but the last 3 questions were missing.


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dampingwire
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 Message 66 of 137
04 June 2013 at 12:11am | IP Logged 
g-bod wrote:
What is the specific problem you are having with listening? Is it an
issue of exam technique?


They speak, I fail to understand. I almost never fully understand, mostly I only
partially understand. So I miss the twists that they throw in.

For the 1991 paper I listened multiple times to the audio, following along with the
script and now I can understand what they are saying. But I still found the 2005 audio
a struggle tonight.

I'll repeat the intensive listening with the 2005 transcript and then see if that
improves things when I try the 2004 one.

I think part of the problem is that I'm not processing things sufficiently quickly. So
by the time I've internalised sentence 1, they're halfway through sentence 2 and I'm
immediately playing catch-up. Throw in the occasional unknown/misheard vocab and I
quickly unravel.

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 Message 67 of 137
04 June 2013 at 12:30am | IP Logged 
If you're just not processing things quickly enough (and I'm guessing by your scores in the
other sections that you don't have a deficiency in grammar and vocab) then I would definitely
recommend studying a dialogue with a transcript so you understand it fully, followed by
shadowing. I found shadowing to be more helpful for listening than for speaking. If I could
get the words out at the same speed as the audio it somehow made it easier to parse.

But your scores on the practice tests as a whole are looking pretty good, I'm sure you'll
pass with flying colours.
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dampingwire
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 Message 68 of 137
04 June 2013 at 11:22pm | IP Logged 
g-bod wrote:
I found shadowing to be more helpful for listening than for speaking. If I
could get the words out at the same speed as the audio it somehow made it easier to
parse.


OK. Thanks. Shadowing it will be for the next month or so then ...
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 Message 69 of 137
05 June 2013 at 7:19pm | IP Logged 
Another thread lead me to this on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=n2SpoNVH8ks
.

The subtitles button (LH most button of the group at the bottom right) allows you to turn
on captions - subtitles in Japanese!

Why didn't anybody tell me this before? :-)

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 Message 70 of 137
13 June 2013 at 1:00am | IP Logged 
It's well pas tthe time I should have posted a progress report on my May goals.


1. Keep up the Kanji reviews at Reviewing The Kanji. Done.

2. Keep up with Anki reviews. I now have a (small) sentences deck and I'm mining JPOD
lessons and NHK Easy News for more vocabulary and sentences. Done.

3. Keep the memrise N4 and N5 courses watered. I'll aim to keep the N4 retention rate
above 80% as I finish enabling the N4 kanji components. I aim to have all the
applicable N4 kanji enabled by the end of this month. Done and all N5/N4
kanji enabled.


4. I'll continue to mine JPOD101 lessons for vocabulary and sentences. Specifically I
want to complete that process for the first 10 lessons of the Lower Intermediate Season
2. Done.

5. Thoroughly revise Lessons 1-15 in Minna No Nihongo. This means checking that all the
vocabulary is known or SRSed (including the reference sections) and checking all the
grammar (by doing all the exercises if necessary). Done. In fact I
finisehd up to lesson 16.


6. Keep the audio going. Hopefully if I mine the vocab for LI S2 and keep repeating the
season during the commute I should see some improvement. Done. I did see
some improvement in my understanding of those lessons. It's probably helped a little
for the N4 listening too.

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 Message 71 of 137
13 June 2013 at 1:09am | IP Logged 
Time for some goals for June.

1. Keep up the Kanji reviews at Reviewing The Kanji.

2. Keep up with Anki reviews (vocabulary, kanji and sentences).

3. Keep the memrise N4 course watered and keep the retention rate
above 80%. I'll also try to keep the N5 course watered, but if I run out of time this
will be the first thing to go.

4. I will continue to work through JLPT 3 past papers. I'll aim to average two complete
papers per week. Allowing for marking and analysis, that's about 2 hours per paper, so
4 hours per week.

5. Thoroughly revise the remaining lessons in Minna No Nihongo. Right now I've
completed the first 30. So at two per day I should be done in time to leave a few weeks
for other revision. That shouldn't be too onerous as I've been through all of these
before. Each lesson takes about 45m.

6. I will keep the audio going during the commute but one specific target will be to
learn and shadow at least 4 of the JLPT 3 audio tracks.

Reviews take about 45m - 1 hour per day total (but can be spread quite easily
throughout the day). The MNN revision is probably the most difficult to fit in, but I'm
hoping that if I fall behind during the week, I can catch up at the weekend.
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 Message 72 of 137
18 June 2013 at 1:06pm | IP Logged 
2004 JLPT 3

文字 91% (50/55)
読解 64% (32/50)
聴解 52% (13/25)

Time to build up a list of things to revise I think (and put more time into intensive
shadowing).


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