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deadscreen
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Message 57 of 112

13 December 2012 at 12:00am | IP Logged

@Spanky, yes those team members were active quite early on, in the main thread for
TAC2013. However, I don't think they have yet posted here. The reason for dividing the
team this way is because the people here have already started talking to each other and
getting to know each other, so we might want to stick together as a team.
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Message 58 of 112

13 December 2012 at 12:06am | IP Logged

I've voted for option 2 on your poll. I think there would be a risk of strong Spanish and French teams whereas Portuguese and Italian might wither if we chose option 1.

I think about 20 members is right for the team, even if people do drop out. If that means 2 Romance teams eventually merge, so be it - the prospect of following 20+ logs from the start is daunting to say the least.

If the team splits, however, put me in the 'Other Romance' team.
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Solfrid Cristin
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Message 59 of 112

13 December 2012 at 12:23am | IP Logged

Tsopivo wrote:

I will admit that for a second there, I considered taking Greek just so I could be part of a
Sparta team :).

I have resisted being on more than one team, but there are two of us who have discussed doing Greek - so if
you were to start Greek let me know. I admit team Sparta sounds pretty cool :-)
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Message 60 of 112

13 December 2012 at 12:27am | IP Logged

Yep, voted option 2 also. I like the idea of having two teams of mixed languages, really
like the Romulus and Remus idea also:)
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Travis.H
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Message 61 of 112

13 December 2012 at 4:02am | IP Logged

I also voted for option 2. We have a nice mix of natives from other countries and having
them in one team sounds like the best way to go.
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JohannaNYC
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Message 62 of 112

13 December 2012 at 5:18am | IP Logged

Solfrid Cristin wrote:

Tsopivo wrote:

I will admit that for a second there, I
considered taking Greek just so I could be part of a
Sparta team :).

I have resisted being on more than one team, but there are two of us who have discussed
doing Greek - so if
you were to start Greek let me know. I admit team Sparta sounds pretty cool :-)

Over at the sign-up thread there's a Greek learner looking for a team to join.

I can't take on Greek this year, but team Sparta is so tempting.
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Message 63 of 112

13 December 2012 at 5:45am | IP Logged

Solfrid Cristin wrote:

... it may prove difficult to kick out people who have already been accepted. .. Having to
exclude someone who has already been accepted would feel very uncomfortable, though. )

Indeed. And agreement also with CMTM, who made a similar point.

Kerrie wrote:

Let's split by language then. Let's have sub-teams instead of splitting completely, though. We will likely end up
merged later in the year anyways....

...I suppose it would be too complicated to make a list of people studying each language, and then everyone
follow the people who are studying the same target language as they are. For example, someone studying French
and Italian would follow Romance team members studying French and/or Italian. Someone studying Portuguese
would only study other teammates that are studying Portuguese.

I think that there are enough of us studying multiple Romance languages that this would work, and we would still
have a sense of team unity, without being overwhelmed from following 25 or more logs. But it's also kind of
complicated, I guess.

Excellent idea. Keeping one team embraces inclusiveness. And allowing people to choose their subteams will
also give them the option of focussing one their own target languages. It's not a problem following the
logs of only those people studying one's own target languages - that's what I currently do, even when they aren't
on "my" team (e.g. following the French learners on Team Freutsch), or when they aren't on any team (e.g. EMK).

Deadscreen wrote:

If I may make a suggestion, we can have Romance Team 1 include ONLY the people who
are ALREADY listed on the first post of this thread. If your name is not there, then you split off and start a
Romance Team 2 thread. This may be the simplest and fastest way of choosing who is on which team and
keeping team 1 under 20 members.

deadscreen wrote:

...The reason for dividing the team this way is because the people here have already started
talking to each other and getting to know each other, so we might want to stick together as a team.

Strongly disagree, and protest. As Spanky pointed out, there are members (including myself) who had signed up
earlier on the established TAC 2013 Registration Thread. Just because we hadn't yet "introduced" ourselves on
this thread (and it's only December 12th; still weeks before the new year), it should not be any reason for
excluding us. It may be a "fast" method, but it's hardly fair, especially without prior warning on the official TAC
Registration thread, and without some sort of consensus.

Brun Ugle has a very useful list (frequently updated) on the first page of the TAC Registration Thread: Even
if we included everyone on that list for the Romance Team (by whatever name) as of today, Dec 12th, it would
still be only 20 members.

If we as a group decide not to accept further members, and ask any new members to start/join a new
group, we should - in fairness to them - first announce it on the official TAC Registration Thread as well
as here.

I would personally prefer that the group keep accepting members; there are some people who have not yet
signed for any teams, and whom - as inspiring French learners and strong forum members - I would be loathe
to turn away. If the Team as a whole keeps accepting members, but has an option for folks to move into sub-
groups as they wish, that would be a win-win situation. One note: This year's TAC 2012 Romantics team had 25
eager members at the beginning of the year. Now, nearing year's end, only eight have continued to update their
logs.

Deadscreen, thank you for having started this group thread. One suggestion for the future: there's also an
option to create polls here on Htlal itself. (Perhaps it's not an option available to new members? Or non-"pro"
level members? Does someone know?) But if you look at the lower right of the forum area you wish (e.g. "General
discussion", "Language Learning Log") there should be, next to the link for "New Topic", another one for "New
Poll".

Technical note: I was unable to vote using my Google Chrome browser. I did eventually vote using Safari, but
regret that Kerry's suggestion of having sub-teams within the Romance team wasn't offered as an option.

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Message 64 of 112

13 December 2012 at 6:03am | IP Logged

songlines wrote:

If the Team as a whole keeps accepting members, but has an option for folks to move into sub-groups as they wish, that would be a win-win situation.

Yep, that was kind of the idea.

songlines wrote:

One note: This year's TAC 2012 Romantics team had 25 eager members at the beginning of the year. Now, nearing year's end, only eight have continued to update their logs.

And most of us only update once or twice a month, if that.

songlines wrote:

Technical note: I was unable to vote using my Google Chrome browser. I did eventually vote using Safari, but regret that Kerrie's suggestion of having sub-teams within the Romance team wasn't offered as an option.

Yea, me too. =(

I actually thought it was a brilliant idea. I guess not so much, except in my own head.

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