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| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5010 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes  Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 113 of 150 23 September 2013 at 12:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
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ASC English books: Robert Jordan: New Spring +4,2
ASC French movies: 2 episodes of Eureka = +1 count update: ASC French books: 42,7/200 ASC French movies 70/200 ASC English books: 63,6/200 And I did a little bit of Swedish. Just a small bit, true. But still better than nothing. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5010 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 114 of 150 24 September 2013 at 1:55am | IP Logged | |||||
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ASC French movies: 2 more episodes of Eureka = +1 movie. And I am a bit sad that just a few more and it will be the end of the show. Despite my original reluctance, I fell in love with it.
Other than that, some bits of Swedish. I am now fighting the first seven lessons of Assimil (yes, I like larger bites and some chewing instead of small spoons) and I am still in the first lesson of Švédština nejen pro samouky (please, allow me to confuse you with ŠNPS or something like that from now on, the name is damn long). I have as well started Pimsleur and I think I might get some very good value of it despite my ambivalent feelings. The trouble is not entirely the time now, that would actually work somehow. But I am now moving and have an intermezzo of short term living on a sofa at my parents' house so there is NO calm and privacy. I can listen and read things (even though some preferably in the middle of the night to avoid some dialogues I don't want to experience now, such us the "What are you going to do with Swedish?" themed one). But I cannot repeat after audio aloud here much. And that is destroying me! I desperately need it! What have I learnt so far: -basics of pronunciation. I'll need a lot of practice but I can orient myself already and even make informed guesses when I have the time. I think French is helping me a lot here, not only because Assimil is one of my main sources. -the present tense is awesome! -some tiny vocabulary. really tiny but it is at least something and it will expand -interference with German comes only when I use the small words now. They are just so short that they fall through the inner filter. The funnist one is using ich in the Swedish Pimsleur. The longer words are better. :-) -I hate that sentence singing now. I only hope immitation of audio will cure that. -the neuter and non neuter article in singular. A small thing but a needed one. What do I expect to encounter soon: -a catch concerning articles, pronouns or something like that. The grammar cannot all be as easy as the present tense, I sense a trap. -a catch concerning verbs, again a trap for sure :-) -funny temporary interferences -many more funny attempts on the sentence accent -a lot of vocab many of which won't be that similar to things I already know So, here comes my plan for PHASE 1: //Phase 1 is getting myself somewhere to A2/B1 or so. While it won't be easy in many ways, it is the only phase finding resources for which isn't that hard. Phase 2 will be mostly lots of input, Phase 3 will be getting my active skills up to par and preparation for the B2 exam. How long it should take? Well, perhaps until the spring. 15th April 2014 sounds good :-D Main sources: 1.Švédština nejen pro samouky 2.Assimil 3.Form i Fokus, levels A and B at least (the only grammar workbooks I found, they look quite good) Complements: FSI (I love the viking and dragon pictures!!! And the course is good as well of course) Colloquial (looks better than TY) Pimsleur (that is a kind of experiment too) 201 Swedish verbs Pictoral Swedish dictionary Nya Mal (a classroom meant course but I think the audio and workbook may have some value. better than Pa Svenska or Rivstart from what I have seen. Or am I wrong?) Other than ASC or Swedish: I was helping a friend with French grammar today and while I know I was helpful, I think I'll need to finally do that huge review, at least so that I can think of more examples on spot and so that I am not longer paranoid about possible misleading her. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4860 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 115 of 150 24 September 2013 at 6:10pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Good luck with Swedish :D
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| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5348 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 116 of 150 24 September 2013 at 9:01pm | IP Logged | |||||
I’ve been living with that kind of questions and remarks for all my life and they used to be very painful. Some people are born and/or raised with enough self-assurance not to need approval at every little step they take, but some have to learn it. I had to learn it and I’m not really there yet, but I’m much better at coping with those snide remarks that some people seem to throw around so carelessly. I can only wish that soon you too will be able not to be bothered excessively by others’ opinions in matters that, frankly, they shouldn’t have any saying in. I assure you that your quality of life will improve dramatically!
No, there’s no trap. Once you’ve got used to the definite article as suffix (and it took me a while) you’re good (though I’m speaking as an Italian with a grounding in English and German. I’m not sure what interferences Czech may give: Slavic languages don’t have articles at all—at least Russian doesn’t—right?). I think German will be more of an ally than a foe: if you keep in mind the two basic rules of German word order you’ve already mastered a huge chunk of Swedish grammar: 1 - SVO in affirmative sentences becomes VSO in questions. 2 - The verb is always in second place: if a sentence starts with something that is not the subject you need to keep the verb in second place and therefore the subject will follow the verb. EDIT:typo Edited by Emme on 25 September 2013 at 2:43pm 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4860 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 117 of 150 25 September 2013 at 12:19am | IP Logged | |||||
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Well, Bulgarian and Macedonian have postpositional articles.
And true, I have the same problem now, but it's rather because of hiding my hitch-hiking travels and learning Georgian and Armenian could be a bit, ekhm, suspicious. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Emme Triglot Senior Member Italy Joined 5348 days ago 980 posts - 1594 votes Speaks: Italian*, English, German Studies: Russian, Swedish, French | Message 118 of 150 25 September 2013 at 2:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
Thank you prz for letting me know! I really should brush up my knowledge of Slavic languages as the little I did learn years ago during a university course on linguistics is mostly forgotten. EDIT: typo. Edited by Emme on 25 September 2013 at 3:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 119 of 150 25 September 2013 at 2:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Romanian also postpositions articles.
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| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4860 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 120 of 150 25 September 2013 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Well, it's quite typical for the Balkan league.
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