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vermillon
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Message 17 of 22

23 September 2013 at 1:33pm | IP Logged

leosmith wrote:

IMO, 2,4 & 5 are idiotic options for people who have tons of extra time.

Would you be interested in paying for a postpone/freeze feature? This is a serious question, I'd gladly volunteer to write a plug-in adding this feature to Anki. (and I've already fixed bugs and written modifications to Anki).
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23 September 2013 at 5:16pm | IP Logged

If you are talking about a ready-made/downloaded deck (ie, you are not inputting cards)
then if you set the maximum daily reviews to roughly whatever your previous typical daily
count was (perhaps plus 10%, to be on the safe side), then everything should come back
into balance after a month or two. Because no new cards are arising during the break,
there will be fewer "new reviews" during the post-break period, and only "backlog
reviews". If you blitz the backlog, then in the subsequent few weeks, you will have hardly
anything to do.

Edited by schoenewaelder on 23 September 2013 at 6:08pm
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25 September 2013 at 8:16am | IP Logged

Cavesa wrote:

1. for the long absence, it does disrupt the learning the same way as just the cards piling up. The important thing about SRS is not how many cards are shown by the software, the important thing is to keep to the ideal intervals. Neither just leaving nor this customisation is a way to do it.

One thing I hate about Anki and its documentation is this belief in "ideal intervals". They may exist, but no algorithm is capable of knowing what it is. But I remember reading statements in the docs saying to "be careful" with changing features because it would disrupt these ideal intervals. Be careful? Is it going to cause a ruptured spleen or something?

As someone suggested, with Anki 2 you only have to think about the next 100 cards due. It doesn't matter if you miss a day or a week, it will only give you 100. If you want more once you've finished that, choose the custom option and increase daily limit. But do your daily 100 (with the occasional extra 50 or 100) for a couple of weeks and you'll be caught up soon enough.
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Message 20 of 22

25 September 2013 at 10:03pm | IP Logged

Stelle wrote:

leosmith wrote:

To the OP - If you really are taking a complete break
from anki for 6 weeks, delete your
decks. Option 6. Anything else is just
masochism. The algorithm won't come anywhere near to being efficient or sensible after
your break. If your
precious decks mean so
much to you, then figure out a way to do anki during your break. Take your laptop, use
anki online, etc.
Otherwise, and I repeat,
delete your decks.

Interesting. This actually might be worth considering - after all, my needs as a
learner will change. Hopefully by
the end of my trip (nearly a year after starting to learn Spanish), I won't need the
same words that I did as a
beginner. Hmmm...food for thought.

Doing the decks on the road isn't an option. I'll be walking the Camino de Santiago,
carrying no more than 6 kg
on my back. So, nope...laptop won't make the cut.

Do report back on this please! :-) My wife is thinking of doing this next Spring. And
(gulp) I may be forced to be the chaperone, if she can't twist our daughter's arm. :-)

(We, oops, she, is going the shorter route, the so called "Camino Ingles").

Buena Suerta, anyway. :-)

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montmorency
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25 September 2013 at 10:06pm | IP Logged

Stelle wrote:

LaughingChimp wrote:

What about AnkiDroid or AnkiMobile?

Sadly, I have a stupid windows phone (grrrr) which doesn't work with ANY apps. Never
again. I'll finish my contract
and get a new phone next summer. Can't wait!

Er, word lists, or Gold Lists, don't require any contracts....

*ahem"

:-)))

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SteveRidout
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26 September 2013 at 11:52am | IP Logged

I've thought about this problem for Readlang's SRS, and here's the solution I've settled on for now.

- Maintain a growing pool of words that you don't know, or are learning, the larger the better.

- The quantity of cards reviewed per day is completely up to you. You shouldn't be made to feel guilty for increasing or decreasing your daily schedule. Do as many sessions of 10, 20 or 30 cards at a time as you please.

- To generate the deck of cards for a session, pick the 10, 20 or 30 *most useful words* (using a word frequency list) from your entire pool of words, only excluding words that are scheduled for the future. Note that no distinction is made between words you've already started learning, and words newly added to the pool. The reason is that if you've added a very useful word to the pool recently, this is more worthwhile than an obscure word that you're only learning because it was one of the few words in your pool when you started.

- Picking the next scheduled date uses the SuperMemo 2 algorithm similar to Anki.

(I blogged about this here: Spaced Repetition, Version 2)

I'm not saying this method is perfect, but it is pretty simple and seems to work well. I'm not familiar enough with Anki to know if it can be easily adapted to work in this way, so sorry if this seems too theoretical.

Edited by SteveRidout on 26 September 2013 at 11:54am

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