Tollpatchig Senior Member United States Joined 4005 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Maltese
| Message 1 of 22 06 December 2013 at 8:50pm | IP Logged |
I feel this title is appropriate for this log book not only because I plan on working mostly out of this book
but also because my goal for my Personal TAC is to go from Beginner to A1 in Finnish by Dec. 2014. I
know this is before the official start but I want to log my prep and list some of the materials I plan on
using. I made another logbook earlier today that I plan on using for the TAC in German for Team STARt. I
figure it'll be easier to keep the two seperate.
So here's what I'm going to use (list may expand):
From Start To Finnish (ebook)
Beginner's Finnish (ebook)
Supisuomea (videos series on YouTube)
inFinnish (video series on YouTube)
The previous knowledge I'll be bringing to the table are the Days of the Week, Numbers 1-10, and the
present tense conjugations if the verb 'olla'.
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Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7154 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes 20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish
| Message 2 of 22 06 December 2013 at 8:55pm | IP Logged |
In case you weren't aware, the audio for "From Start to Finnish" has been released by the publisher for downloading without charge.
Tsemppiä!
P.S. Would you be by chance in joining a TAC team meant only for Finnish?
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Tollpatchig Senior Member United States Joined 4005 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Maltese
| Message 3 of 22 06 December 2013 at 9:09pm | IP Logged |
I didn't know! Kiitos!
If you have a group then I'd be glad to join.
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Tollpatchig Senior Member United States Joined 4005 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Maltese
| Message 4 of 22 07 December 2013 at 1:25pm | IP Logged |
I'm going to be giving Memrise a try in both my German and Finnish studies. I'll be reporting on that later
in the week. On the Finnish side I'll be working on the 1000 Finnish Nouns and the Finnish grammar lists
offeref through the site and app.
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Tollpatchig Senior Member United States Joined 4005 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Maltese
| Message 5 of 22 09 December 2013 at 4:02pm | IP Logged |
Both Memerise and the book are working out great and I can already say a few niceties in Finnish but what is really interesting about Finnish, that I learned from the book is the fact that the words build on each other. They do this in German but even more so with Finnish. For examples from the book:
sana = word
kirja = book
When you add -sto to the end of both these words they become sanasto = vocabulary and kirjasto = library. I'm not sure what exactly this suffix means but it seems to be a multiplier of sorts. Instead of one word you have many (sana to sanasto) and one book becomes many (kirja = kirjasto)
Also you can stick words together and make new words.
sana + kirja = sanakirja = dictionary
tieto + sana + kirja = tietosanakirja = encyclopedia
tieto + kone = tietokone = computer
Tieto means knowledge and Kone means machine.
And my personal favorite:
matka + puhelin = matkapuhelin = cell phone
Matka means travel.
I remember watching a video about Mandarin Chinese where they basically do the same thing. I don't remember the words in Chinese but I do remember the English literal equivalents. The Chinese word for computer is literally "electronic brain". I love languages where you can build on the basic words since it makes learning the vocab is much easier.
Edited by Tollpatchig on 09 December 2013 at 4:02pm
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Henkkles Triglot Senior Member Finland Joined 4251 days ago 544 posts - 1141 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: Russian
| Message 6 of 22 09 December 2013 at 4:21pm | IP Logged |
...and "puhelin" is derived from "puhella" which means to speak habitually or from time to time. (which is a habitive form of "puhua")
Lykkyä tykö. I extend this offer to all Finnish learners I come across: if you want to ask a native something, I'd be happy to answer.
Edited by Henkkles on 09 December 2013 at 4:23pm
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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 7 of 22 09 December 2013 at 4:30pm | IP Logged |
If you are fascinated by this kind of stuff, Esperanto can be fun to try. I didn't find it as logical and exciting as Finnish, though.
Sorry for feeding your mild wanderlust :P
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Tollpatchig Senior Member United States Joined 4005 days ago 161 posts - 210 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Maltese
| Message 8 of 22 09 December 2013 at 4:41pm | IP Logged |
@ Henkkles: Well since you've offered your services... ;)
I've read that in Finnish there is no verb for "to have", if that's true then how do you talk about having something? Also how would one use puhella? Is it conjugated like a verb? I haven't gotten to declination yet but would this be a use:
Mina puhellan (with my) aiti?
@Serpent: You haven't fueled it too much, I've been reading about Esperanto anyways. I read on the Irish polyglot's blog that learning Esperanto for two weeks will help you get ahead in your other languages. I don't know how true that is but the idea of a made-up language (and one that's popular and so well put together) does pique my interest.
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