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sushi13 Diglot Groupie Canada Joined 4689 days ago 49 posts - 64 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish
| Message 17 of 24 06 October 2014 at 4:21am | IP Logged |
Bao wrote:
* in the case of learning languages, if you can, socialize with native speakers who don't
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That is actually a good idea! I've been trying to find language partners on Italki, but
I wasn't very lucky. They want to improve while I want to learn and it always ends up us
only writing in their target language.. But now, i'm trying to find someone who wants to
learn French and has just started. That way, we are about at the same level. I'll have
to take time and search, but I think it could be a lot better to learn!
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| robarb Nonaglot Senior Member United States languagenpluson Joined 5060 days ago 361 posts - 921 votes Speaks: Portuguese, English*, German, Italian, Spanish, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, French Studies: Mandarin, Danish, Russian, Norwegian, Cantonese, Japanese, Korean, Polish, Greek, Latin, Nepali, Modern Hebrew
| Message 18 of 24 06 October 2014 at 4:30am | IP Logged |
sushi13 wrote:
I've been trying to find language partners on Italki, but
I wasn't very lucky. They want to improve while I want to learn and it always ends up us
only writing in their target language
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This, and also they don't always show up. I highly recommend paying for tutors on italki. It works great, and it's not
that expensive. A lesson every week for a year can be had for less than 400 USD.
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| sushi13 Diglot Groupie Canada Joined 4689 days ago 49 posts - 64 votes Speaks: French*, English Studies: Spanish
| Message 19 of 24 06 October 2014 at 4:42am | IP Logged |
robarb wrote:
This, and also they don't always show up. I highly recommend paying for tutors on italki.
It works great, and it's not
that expensive. A lesson every week for a year can be had for less than 400 USD. |
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I'm thinking about getting some lessons from time to time. I'm just very shy about
meeting other people, and webcams scare me, haha.. And I'm also very cheap lately,
because I need to save up money for University, which is very expensive in North
America.. But I recently just got a job so I might reward myself with a few lessons. I
just need to get over my shyness and anxiety. Which is really hard for me, but I've been
working on it for the past year..
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4708 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 20 of 24 06 October 2014 at 9:56am | IP Logged |
Not all classes even use webcam. I have taught and taken many classes without a webcam -
some teachers don't even offer it!
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| shk00design Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 4445 days ago 747 posts - 1123 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French
| Message 21 of 24 06 October 2014 at 11:53am | IP Logged |
When I was in school, learning to speak multiple languages was for the talented. In my family, we were
expected to speak Chinese at home as the mother-tongue and English for other correspondences. None of
my immediate family can speak more than the 2 we considered "core" languages.
Going to a primary in Canada means you have to learn French as 1 of the official languages by default. Living
in the English-speaking part of Canada our family did not see French as an asset even when we got high
marks in school. By the time I got to high school, some people were enrolled in a French immersion program
and already speaking at an advanced level. Others required French tutors. We would study hard enough to get
a passing mark but still thought the people who had talent were the ones who can speak other languages
fluently or have French as a mother-tongue.
Many of us would excel in mathematics, science, accounting, economics, etc. but tend to think of the study
languages as something for enthusiasts. I have relatives who are fluent in Chinese and those who are barely
understandable but nobody in the family thinks this is a problem.
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| garyb Triglot Senior Member ScotlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5208 days ago 1468 posts - 2413 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, French Studies: Spanish
| Message 22 of 24 06 October 2014 at 12:11pm | IP Logged |
I don't think I've ever felt it for languages, but I have for other things, like music. In the past I'd see very good guitarists and feel intimidated by their ability and perhaps jealous. But these days it's the opposite: it motivates me as it makes me think that one day I too could reach that level if I put in the time and effort. I think when you accept that the difference between you and them is mostly time and effort as opposed to talent, your attitude becomes a bit more positive. Perhaps having already had that experience with music is why it's not been a problem with languages, a more recent hobby.
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| beano Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4623 days ago 1049 posts - 2152 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Russian, Serbian, Hungarian
| Message 23 of 24 06 October 2014 at 1:16pm | IP Logged |
Although I do think that talent comes into the equation. Some people are more literate or more eloquent than others. We notice these differences in our native language and naturally they occur among foreign-language learners as well.
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| garyb Triglot Senior Member ScotlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5208 days ago 1468 posts - 2413 votes Speaks: English*, Italian, French Studies: Spanish
| Message 24 of 24 06 October 2014 at 2:41pm | IP Logged |
beano wrote:
Although I do think that talent comes into the equation. Some people are more literate or more eloquent than others. We notice these differences in our native language and naturally they occur among foreign-language learners as well.
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True. Although I find that it's less a case of a general "talent for languages" and more talents for specific aspects. For example, I certainly feel envious of people who speak with a great accent without much effort, but then I seem to pick up grammar and listening comprehension better than many learners so maybe I have a talent for those that others envy. But on the whole, my point is that getting to the stage of speaking a language well is something that takes significant time and effort, even after putting talent into the equation, and understanding that helps me personally not feel intimidated by people who have a high level.
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