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Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 1 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:31am \| IP Logged
	東アジアのチームへようこそ！ Fuji-san! The Great Wall of China! Gyeongbokgung Palace Welcome to the home of the East Asian Team for TAC 2015! I would put the same as the Japanese welcome above in Korean, Mandarin, and Cantonese, had I known the correct wording, so I'll leave it to the champs to give me the lines to put up there with Japanese one :) This thread will serve as our common meeting ground to talk about the challenge, share tips and resources, follow each other's threads, encourage both new and veteran members of the forum, support each other regardless of what level any of us may be at, and generally anything East Asian. The main contenders will be Japanese, Korean, Mandarin and Cantonese, but of course there are other participants with lesser known east Asian languages on board, such as Ainu. Correct me if I'm wrong. Here we will also meet to participate in mini-challenges and Skype meetings, hopefully. Why one, all-encompassing team? Well, I suspect it maybe due to the thinning out of individual language teams in the past, as the year progressed, leaving few to no active members on board (I'm guilty of that myself in 2014). However, I do think it would be a wonderful idea to combine area-specific languages. I'm guessing lots of you studying only one east Asian language may already be interested in another, and a fair number of us are already studying 2 or 3 at the same time. Getting a perspective on what another East Asian language would entail, sharing resources, and learning from each other's experiences highlights the spirit of the TAC, and I am sure it is indispensable. How does it work? Simply set up a log, and include in the title the name of the team and the TAC year. You could keep your old log, or start a new one. If you do choose to keep the current log, just be sure to change the name to reflect the 2015 TAC, and edit your first post to reflect what page and post number of your log the 2015 challenge starts. We visit each others' logs to provide tips, support, and encouragement. There is no rule set in stone as to how regularly you should update; it depends on your goals, learning style, and time, but do make sure to update, and check on others! Mini-Challenges and Skype Sessions Here we can agree on posting mini-challenges for the month, like memorizing a song, translating a text, reading something, speaking, whatever comes to mind. It's a wonderful team collaboration that brings us all together, and is a powerful motivational booster. The challenges will be scaled according to the different language levels of the team members, so for example, a beginner may memorize one or two lines of a song, while the upper levels will do more, obviously. These are all friendly competitions, and you may participate in some, all, or none.It's up to you, although it would be great getting together in a friendly challenge! Since this is a team hosting multiple East Asian languages, we can form language specific mini-groups and participate in the challenge, accordingly. The challenges themselves will be the same in the thread, but I will have to rely on my awesome Mandarin, Cantonese, and Korean teammates to provide the assistance needed when monitoring the results. The Stars of the Show Here I will be posting the names of the participants, as well as providing a link to their individual logs when they're up. Posting them when you visit the thread will be super helpful! I also thought I might group us according to languages, in order to identify who's doing what. Japanese chokofingrz dampingwire Log g-bod Log jesm86 Log Josquin Log kraemder Log liedmc Sooniye Log stifa Log TimmyTurner93 Log Woodsei Log Mandarin Expugnator Log Ezy Ryder Log Rem Log Zimena Log Korean B Hutt Log druckfehler Log Evita Log IBEP Log More than one East Asian language Anya (Japanese, Mandarin) Log misskj (Japanese, Korean) Log Nandemonai (Japanese, Mandarin, Korean) Nieng Zhonghan (Mandarin, Korean) Log sabotai (Japanese, Korean) Log The Real CZ (Korean, Japanese, Mandarin) Log Warp3 (Korean, Japanese) Log YnEoS (Cantonese, Japanese, Mandarin, Korean)Log Yuhakko (Japanese, Korean, Mandarin, Ainu) Log If you guys think it's too confusing, or would cause people to visit certain threads and not others, let me know and I'll just edit us all in one list. This is my first TAC at being a team leader, and I'm open to suggestions, and certainly could use all the support I get. We want our team this year to be a great one! Placeholders I'll set an individual post for resources for each language. I have a whole bunch of Japanese ones, but I'm depending on everyone who is currently studying Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, and Ainu, to post their resources here on the thread so I can get them together in one place. N.B. If you think there are better options out there regarding the above photos, let me know, and I'll change them. Here's to a great start to 2015! Edited by Woodsei on 16 March 2015 at 10:42pm 5 persons have voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 2 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:40am \| IP Logged
	Placeholder for Japanese Resources Learning Resources Minna no Nihongo Genki 1&2 Japanese for Everyone Japanese for Busy People Assimil Learning Sites Erin's Challenge (Free) Lessons With Maggie Sensei (Free) JapanesePod101 (Paid, but you get a free trial) Grammar Tae Kim's Grammar (freely available, and excellent) JGram (Japanese Grammar) Niwasaburou's Grammar (Excellent grammar in Japanese, switch the encoding to EUC-JP) Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar, Dictionary of Advanced Japanese Grammar (excellent and comprehensive books imho) Dictionaries Tangorin Denshi Jisho Sanseido (monolingual, but concise, so easy to use) Goo ALC Rikaikun for Chrome Rikaichan for Firefox Rikaisama (All the Rikai are browser pop-up dictonaries) Podcasts Marimoeo The Podcast Thread over at the Koohi forums, some links dead, but a lot is up and running, and literally hundreds of topics to choose from your areas of interest. iTunes TBS Podcasts (This is just an example of what you can find. In iTunes, change the setting/flag to Japanese, type podcasts in the search bar, and you're good to go. Hundreds of them) Subtitles Kitsunekko Japanese Subtitles for Anime D-Addicts Japanese Subtitles for Drama (They have Korean, Mandarin, English subtitles as well) Edited by Woodsei on 12 January 2015 at 4:39am 2 persons have voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 3 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:40am \| IP Logged
	Placeholder for Mandarin Resources Anki "Traditional Hanzi DNW order" deck Learning With Texts Zhongwen Chinese Popup Dictionary Chrome extension MDBG Chinese->English dictionary Chinese Text Analyzer Edited by Woodsei on 03 January 2015 at 6:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 4 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:41am \| IP Logged
	Placeholder for Cantonese Resources Sydney Lau (Beginner, Intermediate & Advanced) Cantodict Cantonese Paper Dictionary Routledge Comprehensive Grammars FSI DLI Assimil Cantoneseclass101 Teach Yourself (2 Generations) Colloquial (2 Generations) University of Arizona Critical Language Series (Beginner & Intermediate) Greenwood Press Publications Edited by Woodsei on 03 January 2015 at 6:18pm 1 person has voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 5 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:42am \| IP Logged
	Placeholder for Korean Resources Dictionaries (bilingual and monolingual) Naver Dictionary Daum Dictionary and the Daum general site Toktogi A Korean-English pop-up disctionary extension for Firefox and Chrome (thanks CZ) Learning Sites KoreanClass101 Talk To Me In Korean (TTMIK) Let's Speak Korean on Youtube, this is season 1, and I believe you'll find all of them there. If the more experienced Korean learners know of an official place, please let me know, and I'll post it on there. Native Resources Mixtale Naver Comics Little Seouls: These are children's books (courtesy of Warp3 on his log) and I believe you need to purchase them? Any paid and freely available reading sites for Korean would be welcome. Grammar Resources Subtitles Media Resources As you can see I'm bolding these because I want to add the resources as they come under each respective category to make for easy access. So keep 'em coming! Edited by Woodsei on 11 January 2015 at 10:29pm 2 persons have voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 6 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:49am \| IP Logged
	I have no idea why the image for Korea isn't showing :S 1 person has voted this message useful
Ezy Ryder Diglot Senior Member Poland youtube.com/user/Kat Joined 4347 days ago 284 posts - 387 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, Japanese	Message 7 of 314 24 December 2014 at 1:14am \| IP Logged
	Maybe the forum software has inserted a space (or two), or something? I'm gonna use my old log, I've added only 東亞 to the title, because of the character limit. Link My resources for Mandarin: Anki The "Traditional Hanzi DNW order" deck Learning With Texts The Zhongwen Chinese Popup Dictionary Chrome extension The MDBG Chinese->English dictionary Chinese Text Analyzer I'm not participating with Japanese this year, but here are my resources anyway: Anki Yomichan cb's Japanese Text Analysis Tool Edited by Ezy Ryder on 24 December 2014 at 1:14am 1 person has voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 8 of 314 24 December 2014 at 1:40am \| IP Logged
	Welcome, Ezy Ryder, and thanks for posting your resources! Looking forward to following your progress this year. I'll add your link to the team thread. How did you edit your log link to have it show on the forum? Edited by Woodsei on 24 December 2014 at 1:51am 1 person has voted this message useful

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Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 1 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:31am \| IP Logged
	東アジアのチームへようこそ！ Fuji-san! The Great Wall of China! Gyeongbokgung Palace Welcome to the home of the East Asian Team for TAC 2015! I would put the same as the Japanese welcome above in Korean, Mandarin, and Cantonese, had I known the correct wording, so I'll leave it to the champs to give me the lines to put up there with Japanese one :) This thread will serve as our common meeting ground to talk about the challenge, share tips and resources, follow each other's threads, encourage both new and veteran members of the forum, support each other regardless of what level any of us may be at, and generally anything East Asian. The main contenders will be Japanese, Korean, Mandarin and Cantonese, but of course there are other participants with lesser known east Asian languages on board, such as Ainu. Correct me if I'm wrong. Here we will also meet to participate in mini-challenges and Skype meetings, hopefully. Why one, all-encompassing team? Well, I suspect it maybe due to the thinning out of individual language teams in the past, as the year progressed, leaving few to no active members on board (I'm guilty of that myself in 2014). However, I do think it would be a wonderful idea to combine area-specific languages. I'm guessing lots of you studying only one east Asian language may already be interested in another, and a fair number of us are already studying 2 or 3 at the same time. Getting a perspective on what another East Asian language would entail, sharing resources, and learning from each other's experiences highlights the spirit of the TAC, and I am sure it is indispensable. How does it work? Simply set up a log, and include in the title the name of the team and the TAC year. You could keep your old log, or start a new one. If you do choose to keep the current log, just be sure to change the name to reflect the 2015 TAC, and edit your first post to reflect what page and post number of your log the 2015 challenge starts. We visit each others' logs to provide tips, support, and encouragement. There is no rule set in stone as to how regularly you should update; it depends on your goals, learning style, and time, but do make sure to update, and check on others! Mini-Challenges and Skype Sessions Here we can agree on posting mini-challenges for the month, like memorizing a song, translating a text, reading something, speaking, whatever comes to mind. It's a wonderful team collaboration that brings us all together, and is a powerful motivational booster. The challenges will be scaled according to the different language levels of the team members, so for example, a beginner may memorize one or two lines of a song, while the upper levels will do more, obviously. These are all friendly competitions, and you may participate in some, all, or none.It's up to you, although it would be great getting together in a friendly challenge! Since this is a team hosting multiple East Asian languages, we can form language specific mini-groups and participate in the challenge, accordingly. The challenges themselves will be the same in the thread, but I will have to rely on my awesome Mandarin, Cantonese, and Korean teammates to provide the assistance needed when monitoring the results. The Stars of the Show Here I will be posting the names of the participants, as well as providing a link to their individual logs when they're up. Posting them when you visit the thread will be super helpful! I also thought I might group us according to languages, in order to identify who's doing what. Japanese chokofingrz dampingwire Log g-bod Log jesm86 Log Josquin Log kraemder Log liedmc Sooniye Log stifa Log TimmyTurner93 Log Woodsei Log Mandarin Expugnator Log Ezy Ryder Log Rem Log Zimena Log Korean B Hutt Log druckfehler Log Evita Log IBEP Log More than one East Asian language Anya (Japanese, Mandarin) Log misskj (Japanese, Korean) Log Nandemonai (Japanese, Mandarin, Korean) Nieng Zhonghan (Mandarin, Korean) Log sabotai (Japanese, Korean) Log The Real CZ (Korean, Japanese, Mandarin) Log Warp3 (Korean, Japanese) Log YnEoS (Cantonese, Japanese, Mandarin, Korean)Log Yuhakko (Japanese, Korean, Mandarin, Ainu) Log If you guys think it's too confusing, or would cause people to visit certain threads and not others, let me know and I'll just edit us all in one list. This is my first TAC at being a team leader, and I'm open to suggestions, and certainly could use all the support I get. We want our team this year to be a great one! Placeholders I'll set an individual post for resources for each language. I have a whole bunch of Japanese ones, but I'm depending on everyone who is currently studying Mandarin, Cantonese, Korean, and Ainu, to post their resources here on the thread so I can get them together in one place. N.B. If you think there are better options out there regarding the above photos, let me know, and I'll change them. Here's to a great start to 2015! Edited by Woodsei on 16 March 2015 at 10:42pm 5 persons have voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 2 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:40am \| IP Logged
	Placeholder for Japanese Resources Learning Resources Minna no Nihongo Genki 1&2 Japanese for Everyone Japanese for Busy People Assimil Learning Sites Erin's Challenge (Free) Lessons With Maggie Sensei (Free) JapanesePod101 (Paid, but you get a free trial) Grammar Tae Kim's Grammar (freely available, and excellent) JGram (Japanese Grammar) Niwasaburou's Grammar (Excellent grammar in Japanese, switch the encoding to EUC-JP) Dictionary of Basic Japanese Grammar, Dictionary of Intermediate Japanese Grammar, Dictionary of Advanced Japanese Grammar (excellent and comprehensive books imho) Dictionaries Tangorin Denshi Jisho Sanseido (monolingual, but concise, so easy to use) Goo ALC Rikaikun for Chrome Rikaichan for Firefox Rikaisama (All the Rikai are browser pop-up dictonaries) Podcasts Marimoeo The Podcast Thread over at the Koohi forums, some links dead, but a lot is up and running, and literally hundreds of topics to choose from your areas of interest. iTunes TBS Podcasts (This is just an example of what you can find. In iTunes, change the setting/flag to Japanese, type podcasts in the search bar, and you're good to go. Hundreds of them) Subtitles Kitsunekko Japanese Subtitles for Anime D-Addicts Japanese Subtitles for Drama (They have Korean, Mandarin, English subtitles as well) Edited by Woodsei on 12 January 2015 at 4:39am 2 persons have voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 3 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:40am \| IP Logged
	Placeholder for Mandarin Resources Anki "Traditional Hanzi DNW order" deck Learning With Texts Zhongwen Chinese Popup Dictionary Chrome extension MDBG Chinese->English dictionary Chinese Text Analyzer Edited by Woodsei on 03 January 2015 at 6:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 4 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:41am \| IP Logged
	Placeholder for Cantonese Resources Sydney Lau (Beginner, Intermediate & Advanced) Cantodict Cantonese Paper Dictionary Routledge Comprehensive Grammars FSI DLI Assimil Cantoneseclass101 Teach Yourself (2 Generations) Colloquial (2 Generations) University of Arizona Critical Language Series (Beginner & Intermediate) Greenwood Press Publications Edited by Woodsei on 03 January 2015 at 6:18pm 1 person has voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 5 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:42am \| IP Logged
	Placeholder for Korean Resources Dictionaries (bilingual and monolingual) Naver Dictionary Daum Dictionary and the Daum general site Toktogi A Korean-English pop-up disctionary extension for Firefox and Chrome (thanks CZ) Learning Sites KoreanClass101 Talk To Me In Korean (TTMIK) Let's Speak Korean on Youtube, this is season 1, and I believe you'll find all of them there. If the more experienced Korean learners know of an official place, please let me know, and I'll post it on there. Native Resources Mixtale Naver Comics Little Seouls: These are children's books (courtesy of Warp3 on his log) and I believe you need to purchase them? Any paid and freely available reading sites for Korean would be welcome. Grammar Resources Subtitles Media Resources As you can see I'm bolding these because I want to add the resources as they come under each respective category to make for easy access. So keep 'em coming! Edited by Woodsei on 11 January 2015 at 10:29pm 2 persons have voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 6 of 314 24 December 2014 at 12:49am \| IP Logged
	I have no idea why the image for Korea isn't showing :S 1 person has voted this message useful
Ezy Ryder Diglot Senior Member Poland youtube.com/user/Kat Joined 4347 days ago 284 posts - 387 votes Speaks: Polish*, English Studies: Mandarin, Japanese	Message 7 of 314 24 December 2014 at 1:14am \| IP Logged
	Maybe the forum software has inserted a space (or two), or something? I'm gonna use my old log, I've added only 東亞 to the title, because of the character limit. Link My resources for Mandarin: Anki The "Traditional Hanzi DNW order" deck Learning With Texts The Zhongwen Chinese Popup Dictionary Chrome extension The MDBG Chinese->English dictionary Chinese Text Analyzer I'm not participating with Japanese this year, but here are my resources anyway: Anki Yomichan cb's Japanese Text Analysis Tool Edited by Ezy Ryder on 24 December 2014 at 1:14am 1 person has voted this message useful
Woodsei Bilingual Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Woodsei Joined 4795 days ago 614 posts - 782 votes Speaks: English, Arabic (Egyptian) Studies: Russian, Japanese, Hungarian	Message 8 of 314 24 December 2014 at 1:40am \| IP Logged
	Welcome, Ezy Ryder, and thanks for posting your resources! Looking forward to following your progress this year. I'll add your link to the team thread. How did you edit your log link to have it show on the forum? Edited by Woodsei on 24 December 2014 at 1:51am 1 person has voted this message useful