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| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 1 of 62 04 March 2008 at 3:16pm | IP Logged |
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Decided to start a daily language log to keep checks on myself in my daily study, and
to track my progress. audio I am compiling a list of Mandarin audiobooks here in the hope that (1) other people will use them and (2) other people will help me with this list by finding texts for these books in both languages (as long as they not still protected by copyright) How to Download Books: (easy, but time consuming)
Mandarin Audiobooks: Confirmed matching audio and transcription: Confirmed slight differences between audio and text (i.e. can someone find a matching written version?) : Unchecked: Jin Yong 金庸 wikipedia page March-11-08 - Updated methods March-24-08 - Added Library March-27-08 - Added Audiobook Section March-03-08 - Added links to Audiobook Section March-29-08 - More links to Audiobook Section October-04-11 - Made the mistake of editing in Chrome, had to redo everything. Added Star Wars audio (!) Removed HP and 36 Stratagems (audio gone) Edited by kealist on 04 October 2011 at 3:57pm 12 persons have voted this message useful | |
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 2 of 62 04 March 2008 at 5:52pm | IP Logged |
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Good luck with your studies!
You might have accidentally chosen the type "practical self-study question" if the thread ended up in that forum... 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 3 of 62 08 March 2008 at 11:28am | IP Logged |
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Uyghur Resources: Here is one of the main uyghur websites (tor beti): http://biliwal.com/ Other interesting links (if I think of anything else, I will come back and add it in): www.meshrep.com/ http://www.rfa.org/uyghur/ (Radio Free Asia's Uyghur broadcast) http://www.uighurlanguage.com/ (the guy who runs this site does uyghur proficiency testing. Tughluk is a pleasant guy. http://www.anatilim.com/ http://wiki.yulghun.com/ (Apparently someone tried to make a Uyghur wikipedia--haven't looked at it yet) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UyghurLanguage http://www.ukij.org/oyghan/ (Uyghur software) For windows typing is pretty well designed now. It uses the Saudi Arabian input method. For OSX, there is still no right-to-left support for OpenType fonts. Programs that use their own font handling can work well (Mellel, Adobe), but other stuff is useless. http://www.uyghurdictionary.org/ a decent dictionary, none are that great online, or books for that matter. http://dict.yulghun.com/ This is the dictionary I use--it is the same as the electronic dictionary Irpan, as far as I can tell. Library of books Japanese: Remembering the Kanji Vol 1 Breaking into Japanese Literature Nakama I Nakama II Furigana Dictionary Japanese with Ease Vol 1 Japanese with Ease Vol 2 How to Play the Clever Bass Mandarin: Integrated Chinese Level 1, Part 1 Practical Audio-Visual Chinese (.125)Parallel Text of Anna Karenina and audiobook Latin: Lingva Latina Pars I Familia Romana Lingva Latina II Roma Aeterna French: French in Action French without Toil French with Ease Oxford French Dictionary Le Petit Prince Nouveau Testament (Semeur) German: German without Toil Cartina Method Learn German in 20 Lessons...Illustrated Greek: Teach Yourself Greek Oxford Greek Dictionary Swedish: Teach Yourself Swedish Dutch: Dutch without Toil Spanish: Spanish without Toil Croatian: Teach Yourself Croatian Korean: Elementary Korean Procedures: Japanese: Goal: Finish Assimil at least by the end of the semester (halfway through May). Continue practicing conversation with Japanese friends. I've also been going through some of the stories on franklang. After finishing Assimil, I would like to FINALLY read Breaking into Japanese Literature. Daily Activity: One lesson per day
Beginning state: Passive wave lesson 68; Active Wave 18. Time: 1 hour per day. Mandarin: Now I have decided to spend at least an hour L-Ring a day of Anna Karenina in Mandarin. I would like to get some spurts of 4 or 5 hours in there to see how it proceeds. Previous idea: I've been a bit aimless on this after I finished the first semester of study (finished level 1 part 1 of Integrated Chinese) in the winter, and have had conversations and read some things on and off. I am going to start working through Chinois sans peine since I have recently acquired it. I am of the traditional character school, so I will be retyping it to use traditional characters lesson by lesson. I will also be using Practical Audio-Visual Chinese Level I text because I have it. My goal is to finish Assimil by the end of the summer. I will also be experimenting some with L-Ring. Goal: Assimil at least one lesson per day. optionally 30 minutes of L-R a day Time: 0.5 to 1 hour per day Uyghur: Goal: Read new texts for class and shadow them. Improve my vocabulary immensely. I hope to be able to read a novel in Uyghur by the end of the summer. Vocabulary is my main problem. Grammar is pretty internalized at this point. Using the modified arabic alphabet, I read very slow. I want to work on my speed. For vocabulary, I will go back and look all the words I have supposedly learned over the years, and review it. Now I am doing scriptorium exercises with previous texts I've done before because I feel that I retain most of the words in the sentences. This was my previous daily plan: - Vocabulary (10 minutes of vocabulary review per day) - Reading speed (10 minutes of blind reading a day) - Fluency - 20 minutes of shadowing texts - Class Changed forums, I could have sworn I posted this in here, but somehow it ended up in practical self study questions. Because of a major linguistics field methods paper I had to do for yesterday, I mainly shadowed Japanese and Chinese while I was driving around the last 2 days, as well has having class, so I did not stick to my plan for the last couple days. Nor could my Japanese language partners meet this week, so that is a shame. Japanese: Assimil 69. This morning I read a few sentences out of the middle of Nakama 2, and could understand them without a problem, aside from a couple unknown kanji which I could understand from Chinese. Mandarin: I have listened to about 25 of the first lessons, and I could understand most of them except for a few words here and there. I think I will start with Lesson 18 and continue on from there. Uyghur: Need to dig out my notebook from the summer and start reviewing words. Reading an excerpt from a Uyghur book about a Swedish traveller Swen Hedin. Written Uyghur is so much denser than spoken. The more I do it, the more I will get used to it though. Edited by kealist on 29 April 2008 at 9:57pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 4 of 62 10 March 2008 at 3:05pm | IP Logged |
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Japanese: So, today, I met with one of my conversation partners and tried to speak, but I am realizing that my speaking ability is rather dead, while I can comprehend quite a bit. I am going to make an effort to go back through and study the words in Assimil that I can't seem to hold on to. I am not progressing through the new lessons as fast because I am getting lazy. I need to write a set of steps to do down with the lesson to systematically move through it each day in an efficient way. I am at lesson 70, review now. I will have my second meeting
Mandarin: Yesterday went to Chinese church and while I didn't understand much at all, I did learn and figure out some words. Yesterday, I decided to sit down with Anna Karenina (I printed out the first 50 pages of my bilingual text) and tried L-Ring the first two chapters after reading them in English. This was my second attempt at this, but I could follow along much much better, except in some of the medium and long paragraphs. I realize it would have been easier to break up the Chinese into more sections on my text to make it easier to follow along with. I have been listening to some of the Assimil lessons in my car this weekend, but not actually reading the book. Not to continuously change my plan, but I am going to stick with L-Ring Anna as far as I can, to get a better idea for this method. I think a few words actually did stick with me even though I didn't "understand" everything. Just did another hour: chapters 1 through 4. Chapters 1 and 2 were much much easier to go through the second time around. L-R time: 2.5 hours Uyghur: intermittent reading for 1.5 hours at work, and 50 minutes of class. Texts are about 60% unknown vocabulary which is annoying, I have yet to find a source for anything different than that though. Spoke for about an hour and a half with a friend on Saturday. I also need to get into an exercise routine. Edited by kealist on 11 March 2008 at 4:41pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 5 of 62 11 March 2008 at 4:51pm | IP Logged |
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Updated my first post with some changed methods.
Japanese: Because I tried following the scriptorium method I found that it improved my ability to retain comprehension of words without further work. I am also learning some of the kanji as a side affect. I find that at these lower lessons, I am having trouble focusing on studying, so this should help me maintain my momentum and keep moving and understanding them. Yesterday I did this with Lesson 68. I am planning on doing 69 in a few minutes. Update: Did Scriptorium for Lesson 69. My retention was not as good this time, but I was a bit tired today. Mandarin: L-R the first four chapters of Anna Karenina again this afternoon. I could retain my place much better this time through, and I understood a little bit more. It took around an hour. Sometimes I feel on the verge of having a headache, but it goes away. I am doing this at work in my office, so there is some background noise. I will do it again tonight and hopefully go through some more chapters. Update: Did not end up doing more except for reading through ch 11 in English to prep for doing it in Mandarin. L-R time today: 1 hours L-R total time: 3.5 hours Uyghur: Nothing today. Edited by kealist on 12 March 2008 at 1:06am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 6 of 62 13 March 2008 at 12:14am | IP Logged |
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Today was a little disappointing. Not enough time to get things done because my schedule was pretty much full.
Japanese: Reviewed and listened to previous lessons probably a total of 20 to 30 minutes. Whited out about 8 lessons worth of romanji of the next few lessons. This is extremely time consuming, and extremely annoying. My comprehension of the lessons I did with scriptorium is pretty solid still. I am happy about that. Mandarin: Nothing. I will try to read a few things before going to sleep. Review a lesson in my old finished textbook or something. I have no energy for L-Ring today. I will try to wake up early and do some before work in the morning. Uyghur: Finished the excerpt of the Swen Hedin book in class today. I did a brief few minutes of scriptorium with some of the sentences from the lesson, but didn't get a solid amount because some calls came in at work. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 7 of 62 13 March 2008 at 5:03pm | IP Logged |
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Japanese: Scriptorium Lesson 71. Took me around 45 minutes. I could read most of it without furigana afterwards.
Mandarin: L-Red for about two and a half hours while at work. There were a couple of minute or two long distractions where I had to stop, but it didn't feel like it was so disruptive. I read through the first nine chapters of Anna. The first four were VERY easy to follow along with, but the others were much tougher. I have really begun to notice some differences in the Chinese text and audio. I don't know whether that will be something bad later on, or if I should try to find the EXACT matching version. It's probably 95% identical. In the later chapters (five through nine) I found myself getting lost or thinking I was further along than I was. The names are really helpful as steps to make sure I know where I am in the text. L-R time today: 2.5 hours L-R time total: 6 hours Uyghur: Nothing of consequence. Spent a few minutes looking through the Modern Uyghur Grammar (Morphology) book I picked up from Turkey. Haven't had a chance to do much. I will be reviewing vocabulary for a few hours in the morning tomorrow. Should have done some more today. Edited by kealist on 14 March 2008 at 1:04am 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| kealist Senior Member United States kealist.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6237 days ago 111 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Uyghur, Mandarin, Shanghainese | Message 8 of 62 14 March 2008 at 4:05pm | IP Logged |
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Today I read the autobiographical portion of Ilios by Heinrich Schliemann. His focus on memory is interesting. Though I feel he had much more drive from his life circumstances than I do. I would be curious to read his La Chine et le Japon, but my French is not so wonderful at this point. I could at least understand the jist of the page or two that I read. I would like to try L-Ring it after I feel comfortable with Chinese.
Japanese: Scriptoriumed lesson 72. Spent about 40 minutes on it. Chinese: I have to head back home tonight, so I will try to do an hour or two of L-Ring before I sleep. Uyghur: Around one hour of scriptorium. Watched a movie. My comprehension of the movie was iffy, but I could basically follow it. I will be traveling for 5 days next week, and I will be in a place where I will not have time for language study. I may be able to do one thing for 30 minutes to an hour a day, but that's all. I have decided to go to China for the summer. I should have a lot of time to devote to pure language study because aside from language classes, I have no other commitments. Edited by kealist on 14 March 2008 at 5:05pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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